“One of our stake YW Presidents decided that denim skirts were not modest and put out the word that they were not appropriate for church.”

To me, this is crossing the line into class warfare. I’m all for people wearing their Sunday best to church, but if their Sunday best happens to be a denim skirt because they can’t afford a $700 dress and someone tells them they’re being immodest, I have a problem with that.

A number of TV shows and websites have been devoted to “making your child unattractive to pedophiles”. None of the people who produced these shows or websites would ever argue that children are responsible for keeping pedophiles in check.

I would tend to side more with the opinion that telling women “not to be pornography” degrades the men, as it suggests they are unable to control their raging hormones when an immodest female enters the room.

It’s cool, AspieMom. Frankly, this is one topis that bugs me a lot, since I’ve seen so much distortion and manipulation of quotes about it over the years. I was tired and not feeling well, so I acted out of character. I apologize.

There a alot of ways that children can grow up well adjusted. I just really liked AaronL’s ideas about some things. I agreed with him in that I have not noticed a real modesty problem with the youth in our church. I also agreed with him that LDS youth interact with all kinds of people everyday.

I am pretty sure that you are a great dad. Sorry if I wrote something that would make you think otherwise.

Oh, and AspieMom, I generally try hard to get snippy, but all six of my children are well-adjusted, have healthy attitudes about sex and their bodies and aren’t hung up about modesty – since I’ve treated it as an internal harmony and an expression of self-worth. It’s the underlying implication that . . . never mind. I really don’t like getting snippy.

The camp demo was by the SYWP, who made a presentation at the beginning of the week about appropriate hugging. A presentation was made about how to do the appropriate tee-pee hug, cheek to cheek keeping the hips back. Approx. 3 seconds was the approved time limit.

It was a “WTC” moment for us when we heard about it. Our concern was that my daughter’s response was that the SYWP was inspired so there must have been some problems with the way they were hugging before that was inappropriate and could have lead to thoughts of homosexuality. My wife quickly took the opportunity to clear up the difference between appropriate non-sexual contact and what may be inappropriate.

The girls at our house do a lot of hugging. I think it helps the kids to have appropriate non-sexual physical contact with each other (hugs, leaning while telling stories, a little pushing and shoving, etc.). This way they are used to the contact and know what a good relationship feels like. Then if something goes over the line they will be able to recognize it quickly and deal with it (hopefully).

I still laugh thinking about people giving a serious hug demonstration with time limits. It sounds like something from “The Office”.

Uh…….what the…?