A Grand AM to you!
Welcome to By Common Consent’s live coverage of General Conference on this absolutely miserable and rainy Sunday Morning in Salt Lake City! Music and the Spoken Word is being played and…er…spoken right now, with the Sunday Morning session ready to get going in about 15 minutes. Don’t forget to follow our minute-by-minute coverage on Twitter. We also encourage you to (if you’re not already doing so) watch Conference live, streaming from LDS.org.
A separate (but equal) thread containing photos from around the Conference Center will be set up soon.
We’ve got a few minutes before conference starts, so let’s hand out a few mini-Niblets, no? Best Talk? Best Tie? Best Hair? Or do we need a category which President Uchtdorf doesn’t win?
(For those asking for the batting order, I am afraid I will be disappointing you. Sorry!)
Just announced: President Eyring first, then Bishop Burton
From President Eyring:
“First, I give counsel to husbands and wives. Pray for the love which allows you to see the good in your companion. Pray for the love that makes weaknesses and mistakes seem small. Pray for the love to make your companion’s joy your own. Pray for the love to want to lessen the load and soften the sorrows of your companion.”
It’s difficult to type while President Eyring is speaking.
Elder Perry mentioned the ward-level missionary work plans. My own ward has been quite successful in implementing this–what has been your experience?
Bishop Burton: The “ITY” Virtues–civility, fidelity, charity, generosity, morality, spirituality, humility, integrity…
Fun Fact #5: The photographer for the BYU-Idaho paper had his camera equipment stolen last night.
Fun Fact #6: He has commandeered my wife’s camera. Hence, pictures are slow coming.
Sister Dibb is speaking now–as I’m sure you all know, she is the daughter of President Monson. It is interesting to hear her personal experiences with him, such as that which she shared today. I wish she would give us a little bit more, though–just one small anecdote. Elder Nelson up to bat now…
Elder Nelson:
“Personal revelation can be honed to become spiritual discernment. To discern means to sift, to separate, or to distinguish. The gift of spiritual discernment is a supernal gift. It allows members of the Church to see things not visible, and to feel things not tangible. Bishops are entitled to that gift as they face the task of seeking out the poor and caring for the needy…members can discern between schemes that are flashy and fleeting and those refinements that are uplifting and enduring.”
MoTab Choir Singing.
Lavendar Robes, Dark Suits.
Here Comes Pres Monson.
That is all for the morning session–but one thing of note: If you’re trying to follow us on Twitter, apparently the @ByCommonConsent feed is not being picked up in the #ldsconf Twub. If you have ideas why, please send an email to us or tweet to me. We’ll be back in an hour or two, and pictures will be forthcoming are now up on a separate thread here at BCC.
And please, remember to be courteous in driving.
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October 4, 2009 at 8:50 am
Hey Scott, if you have the list of speakers for these last two sessions, can you email them to me?
Thanks
October 4, 2009 at 8:52 am
Live coverage (not commentary) from http://www.patheos.com/Community/Events/LDS-General-Conference.html
October 4, 2009 at 8:52 am
me too? mertigressatgmaildotcom
October 4, 2009 at 8:53 am
My brother just entered the MTC. His two favorite songs (Come Thou Fount and My Shepherd) were performed on music and the spoken word today… I hope he gets to listen.
October 4, 2009 at 8:57 am
So this is going to be my most interactive online experience with Conference ever! Video streaming on my wife’s computer, live blogging on my computer, both here and on BCC. And somehow I am going to try to take notes, as well, so I can post them on my blog at the end of conference! Ready? Set? Go!
October 4, 2009 at 9:00 am
Best sports analogy?
October 4, 2009 at 9:01 am
I am ready. Aren”t you all lucky?
October 4, 2009 at 9:01 am
President Monson looks good in a red tie.
October 4, 2009 at 9:02 am
Forgot that I am using my full name.
October 4, 2009 at 9:03 am
I’m looking forward to some more spiritual enlightenment today. I don’t often walk away from priesthood meeting thinking that someone other than a member of the first presidency gave the best talk of the session, but I have to sy that last night, Elder Ballard hit it out of the park. Many times!!!
October 4, 2009 at 9:03 am
So a quick question for all those hoping for an announcement of a 2-hour block… How would that work? (And if this has been discussed elsewhere, just drop the link!)
October 4, 2009 at 9:04 am
1 hour sacrament, 30 minutes sunday school, 30 minutes RS/PH.
October 4, 2009 at 9:05 am
I nominate the women of MoTab for TLC’s “What Not to Wear.”
October 4, 2009 at 9:05 am
SCOTT–can we get the lineup today? and if you have text of talks, email them to robtherefereeATgmailDOTcom
October 4, 2009 at 9:05 am
Well, in that case, as a Primary teacher, I am going to utter a quick, “Oh good Lord, please, no!” I would never get a lesson started with that little amount of time! And sharing time… oh, we’d never get anything done! Think of the children! Oh, please, won’t someone think of the children!
October 4, 2009 at 9:05 am
I second that. I know it’s hard to find something that’s flattering on everyone, but NOBODY looks good in these dresses.
October 4, 2009 at 9:06 am
BRIAN — you arent related to any Duffins that used to live in Alaska are you? Had a string of Sizzler restaurants?
October 4, 2009 at 9:08 am
I like the purple MoTab men’s ties. I can’t see the pattern on them well (I want conference in HD!), but what I can see looks nice. Matches with the women’s dresses.
And yes, the dresses aren’t great, but since they have to go with something that will be wearable for women of every shape and bust size, they’re really limited, and these actually aren’t that bad.
October 4, 2009 at 9:08 am
Sadly, I like these dresses better than yesterday’s.
October 4, 2009 at 9:09 am
Is anyone else having problems with the streaming being choppy?
October 4, 2009 at 9:10 am
Mine is nonexistent, Apparently the church doesn’t have linux supported at all. I’m watching on TV.
October 4, 2009 at 9:10 am
I Just want to go on record saying that it still bothers the hell out of me that a church that emphasizes family so much would ban children under the age of 8 from the conference center during conference.
October 4, 2009 at 9:10 am
Yes, Ray. Now LDS.org isn’t working at all. I just got an error that says the website is temporarily down.
October 4, 2009 at 9:11 am
RAY–the stream on my 42 inch plasma is not choppy at all.
October 4, 2009 at 9:11 am
Mine is extremely choppy. I barely get two words in a row.
October 4, 2009 at 9:11 am
I actually think it’d be nicer to have a shorter sacrament meeting. For one thing, it would emphasize that we’re there for the *sacrament*, and not as much to listen to 30-45 minutes’ worth of speakers.
October 4, 2009 at 9:12 am
Yes Ray. And when we tried to reload, we lost video feed altogether. Apparently the lds.org website is being overwhelmed with the demand again. BYU TV is a completely lost cause, and always has been. It just doesn’t have the bandwidth to cope apparently.
October 4, 2009 at 9:12 am
It’s too bad, since I love this song.
October 4, 2009 at 9:12 am
I can’t get LDS.org or BYU TV to work at all. Is it online anywhere else?
October 4, 2009 at 9:12 am
ksl.com people. But now you’ll all make ksl crash. darn it. never share anything.
October 4, 2009 at 9:12 am
The choir director also has a nice tie.
October 4, 2009 at 9:13 am
had problems with the main stream, but the windows media stream is working pretty well. (I may regret saying this…)
October 4, 2009 at 9:13 am
Okay, I was able to get there by going straight to the broadcast page:
http://www.lds.org/broadcast/gc/0,5161,8870,00.html
October 4, 2009 at 9:13 am
Speaking of Choir DIrectors, did any of the men notice last night notice that during the congregational hymn, he didn’t sing a single word of the song?
October 4, 2009 at 9:13 am
@ Rob (#22),
My current ward is primarily composed of young couples, most of whom have between 1 and 3 children under the age of 8. With that many young children in the congregation, it is frequently difficult to hear the speaker. I can only imagine how bad it would be in the Conference Center.
October 4, 2009 at 9:14 am
Excluding under 8 y/o from the conference center is the only thing that keeps me watching G/C.
October 4, 2009 at 9:14 am
Elder Eyring’s tie is a little bland.
October 4, 2009 at 9:14 am
As a parent of young children, I think it would be miserable to try to make it through two hours in the conference center.
October 4, 2009 at 9:15 am
Rob, it doesn’t bug me at all.
A church that understands family would also understand that we parents actually get sick of our kids and not force us to put up with them in all contexts.
October 4, 2009 at 9:15 am
I’m on byub.org
October 4, 2009 at 9:15 am
“The message of the restored gospel of Jesus Christ is that we can and must expect to become better as long as we live.”
October 4, 2009 at 9:16 am
I think it should be a form of child abuse to force under 8 year olds to the conference center and expect them to sit quietly.
And it’s a form of adult-abuse to broadcast young children screaming and crying across the world.
There’s just no reason for it.
October 4, 2009 at 9:17 am
http://www.byu.tv/
There, I contributed something positive.
October 4, 2009 at 9:17 am
Beat me to it, Tanya. Great stuff.
October 4, 2009 at 9:17 am
I need to go fullscreen, so I’ll read everyone’s comments after it’s over.
October 4, 2009 at 9:17 am
I don’t know that I’ve ever sung this “Zion” song in English. On my mission, the Chinese wards and branches in which I served seemed to be pretty fond of it. “锡安，锡安，美丽的锡安，可爱的锡安，我们神圣的城市，锡安 . . .”
October 4, 2009 at 9:17 am
Agree that I think they have chosen wisely by not allowing under-8s.
October 4, 2009 at 9:17 am
I’m watching online and still listening to the choir sing. I had no idea the video lag was this bad! But I don’t want to rush across town to watch at a church building and only be able to update on Twitter… *sigh*
October 4, 2009 at 9:18 am
“Any believing Latter-day Saint is an optimist . . .” Ah, crap.
October 4, 2009 at 9:19 am
#34
Rob
Just stood there waiving his arms with a grin on his face
Drove me nuts!!!!!!!
October 4, 2009 at 9:19 am
our under 8′s used to have their own Primary-run stake conference during the Sunday morning session. My kids were most unhappy when it was stopped and they had to come in with us.
October 4, 2009 at 9:19 am
Eder Eyring, however is reminding us of the vlue of worshipping with young one. Yet, this does not preclude practical measures.
My children are reminders of pure love.
October 4, 2009 at 9:20 am
Okay, now that BYU-TV has saved my morning, I can focus on the message. Oh, primary songs! Now I am uber-happy!
October 4, 2009 at 9:20 am
“Love is the motivating principle by which the Lord leads us along the way toward becoming like him…. Love of others is at the heart of our capacity to obey Him.”
October 4, 2009 at 9:21 am
I’m not sure I understand “love of others is at the heart of our capacity to obey [god].” I’ll have to think on that.
October 4, 2009 at 9:23 am
BYU TV is completely bogged down apparently and I can’t get anything to load. The official LDS website feed is not loading either. Only KSL.com worked for us.
October 4, 2009 at 9:24 am
Tentacles of love. What a word to use. Or did I hear it wrong?
October 4, 2009 at 9:25 am
After several attempts, we got the lds.org audio feed to start working. But it is starting to be inconsistent.
October 4, 2009 at 9:26 am
It’s probably all the additional people logging in to see if an apostle says anything nasty about gay people.
October 4, 2009 at 9:26 am
Bad form Seth.
October 4, 2009 at 9:28 am
Ariel > I think it was PENTACLES of love. That makes more sense. :D
October 4, 2009 at 9:28 am
mine just cut from Eyring to the opening of priesthood??!?!?!?!
October 4, 2009 at 9:29 am
It’s all those “Sunday only” conference watchers bogging down the broadcast streams.
October 4, 2009 at 9:29 am
“I hope you will go out today looking for opportunities to do as he did and love as he loved.”
October 4, 2009 at 9:29 am
60 Chris H.
It was a joke (right?).
October 4, 2009 at 9:29 am
Okay, well Steve M said what everyone else was thinking. Let’s move on…
October 4, 2009 at 9:30 am
Tanya, thanks for highlighting those quotes.
October 4, 2009 at 9:30 am
Marmon…tee hee
October 4, 2009 at 9:30 am
lds.org was jittery, so I tried to load byub.org. It never loaded. I completely lost lds.org. ksl.com is working well now.
President Eyring always speaks with his emotions so near the surface. His vulnerability invites me in, and I feel like there’s a heart-to-heart connection mediated by the Spirit. Amazing.
October 4, 2009 at 9:30 am
Maybe Chris. But is was also serious. I monitor news stories with the “Mormon” “Mormonism” “Joseph Smith” and “LDS” keywords via Google Alerts, and this year has seen a RELENTLESS stream of news articles and blog posts – all devoted solely to this particular pet issue.
Our Church is under the microscope right now.
October 4, 2009 at 9:30 am
Ariel, 55. “I’m not sure I understand “love of others is at the heart of our capacity to obey [god].” I’ll have to think on that.”
Jesus commanded, Love one another. If we obey God we love, if we don’t love one another, we are not obedient.
IMHO
October 4, 2009 at 9:30 am
The Manti Temple is my fave.
October 4, 2009 at 9:30 am
I know it was a joke. But still..
October 4, 2009 at 9:31 am
People who think Mormons spend all their time saying nasty things about gay people will find that it’s even worse: Mormons seldom mention gay people–at all.
Mine just cut to the beginning of the Saturday morning session.
October 4, 2009 at 9:31 am
My apologies for the junior high-level humor. In all seriousness, this is a good talk.
October 4, 2009 at 9:31 am
Chad Too>
I eat carn, live in St. Gearge, praise the Lard, read that Book a Marman… :D tee hee
October 4, 2009 at 9:31 am
Even though Elder Perry’s tie is another boring grey, the stripe is nice. Also, gray looks pretty good against his skin tone.
October 4, 2009 at 9:32 am
I haven’t been to the Manti pageant for some time. I remember it being rather fun. I wonder what I’d think of it if we went back.
October 4, 2009 at 9:32 am
Seth, I am well aware of that. Just trying not to think about it. carry on.
October 4, 2009 at 9:32 am
quoting Regan. Yay!
October 4, 2009 at 9:32 am
Manti Temple love. Amen.
October 4, 2009 at 9:33 am
On people asking “How is your family?” and then waiting for a response! What love and interest!
October 4, 2009 at 9:33 am
There really is a big difference between a filmed temple session and a live one. I totally get what E. Perry is saying about hearing the echo of the pioneers.
October 4, 2009 at 9:33 am
I love the Manti temple almost as much as I hate the Manti pageant.
October 4, 2009 at 9:33 am
“There’s something about reviewing the lessons of the past to prepare us to face the challenges of the future.”
October 4, 2009 at 9:34 am
Ditto Brad.
October 4, 2009 at 9:34 am
Brad, hehe. There are a couple good things to the pageant, even if they’re rare.
October 4, 2009 at 9:34 am
Ben, such sincerity seems so rare.
October 4, 2009 at 9:34 am
Though the pageant is a good excuse to go eat a lot of 7up turkey.
October 4, 2009 at 9:36 am
RE: 7up turkey.
Even a broken clock is right twice a day.
October 4, 2009 at 9:36 am
In the name of equality, let’s tear down all of old temples and replace them with modern-day temples.
October 4, 2009 at 9:36 am
I loved the pageant when I was a teenager. It was a fun and spiritual experience. Now I’m older and more cynical, and if I were to see it again I may be filled with snark, but it was good for me when I was young.
October 4, 2009 at 9:37 am
That graphic made me dizzy.
October 4, 2009 at 9:37 am
*looking for his recipe for 7up turkey*
October 4, 2009 at 9:37 am
lol@eddie
October 4, 2009 at 9:37 am
There is no pageant other than the Hill Cumorah Pageant. The rest are all mock facsimiles.
October 4, 2009 at 9:38 am
“We are going to build another Temple in Manti, in Sanpete Valley, and they are also going to build one in Cache Valley, at Logan. … After a while, every county will have its temple, and maybe after that every town and village will also have its own temple.” — Ned Desaules, in a letter to his aunt, 1877
October 4, 2009 at 9:38 am
HCP = the greatest abomination of all.
October 4, 2009 at 9:38 am
Elder Perry has reminded me of why Utahns made fun of the way I pronounce “roof”.
October 4, 2009 at 9:39 am
queuno is correct Hill Cumorah rules, though Tanya’s (#93) comment applies there as well. It is more about the experience of heading out to a pageant with the family than it really is about the details of the performance itself.
October 4, 2009 at 9:39 am
Did someone say Manti pageant?
http://rave.ohiolink.edu/etdc/view?acc_num=bgsu1124572144
October 4, 2009 at 9:40 am
My favorite part of HCP is when Samuel the Lamanite appears.
October 4, 2009 at 9:40 am
Perry doesn’t end sentences with prepositions. This makes me happy.
October 4, 2009 at 9:40 am
Great quote Ardis. He must not have meant Box Elder County.
October 4, 2009 at 9:41 am
I love the Manti temple. Growing up in southern Utah, it was basically our temple. It’s a beautiful structure with a lot of historic character. I much prefer it over the prefabricated box designs of the newer temples. I love nice buildings with a lot of history.
I also agree with the above. I love the Miracle Pageant every bit as much as I dislike it.
My first date with my wife was spent on a blanket on that big lawn watching the pageant while our friends (all hoping we’d hook up) did their best to avoid talking to us, so we could be “alone.”
So I have a soft spot in my heart for this particular piece of Mormon kitsch.
October 4, 2009 at 9:42 am
I went to the HCP once while very depressed about my life. When Christ made his grand appearance at the end, I wept. Sure it was pure cheese, but it hit me strong.
October 4, 2009 at 9:42 am
It’s usually not wrong to end a sentence with a preposition.
October 4, 2009 at 9:43 am
Tracting is ineffective.
Amen.
October 4, 2009 at 9:44 am
Prepositions are things that it’s usually okay to end sentences with.
October 4, 2009 at 9:45 am
I like the forceful way Elder Perry shares his ending testimony.
October 4, 2009 at 9:45 am
Narway
October 4, 2009 at 9:45 am
Remember the kid who didn’t want to hear Australian bedtime stories? “Why did you bring that book I didn’t want to be read to from out of about Down Under up for?”
October 4, 2009 at 9:45 am
ugh, brad. ew.
October 4, 2009 at 9:46 am
Bishop Burton’s tie is hideous. It matches well with his suit, and it’s got a nice pattern, but the color is horrible. Horrible! Actually, I don’t really like brown suits, either.
October 4, 2009 at 9:46 am
Ardis, that nearly made me cry.
October 4, 2009 at 9:47 am
“Let virtue garnish thy thoughts unceasingly.” Another pr0n talk?
October 4, 2009 at 9:47 am
I love Burton!
October 4, 2009 at 9:47 am
The Aristotle talk.
October 4, 2009 at 9:47 am
The tie is a very good fall tie, so’s the suit. It IS fall people.
October 4, 2009 at 9:47 am
Did he just say Elder Pace (instead of Elder Perry)?
October 4, 2009 at 9:47 am
I liked Perry’s striped tie, by the way. I like stripes.
October 4, 2009 at 9:48 am
“virtue-traits”
October 4, 2009 at 9:48 am
He was thanking Elder Pace for his invocation.
October 4, 2009 at 9:48 am
7up Turkey
1 quart soy sauce
1 2-liter bottle 7up (diet will not work)
12-18 boneless turkey breasts
1 cup vegetable oil
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Place turkey breasts in a deep stockpot. Gently pour half the 7up from the bottle into the pot, doing your best not to fizz the soda up too much. Pour the soy sauce into the bottle of soda and gently swirl to mix, then pour the mixture over the turkey breasts. This should be enough to cover all the meat. Pour the cup of oil into the pot. The oil should rise to the top, effectively sealing the fizz in the soda.
Place the pot in the refrigerator to marinate at least 10 hours. Overnight is better. Pull the turkey breasts out and grill slowly over low flame/coals (too hot will burn the outside before the cold center comes to temperature.)
If you want to glaze the breasts, take a new 3/4 cup of soy sauce and put it in a fresh saucepan with a 1 1/2 cups of 7up. Add 1/4 teaspoon of ground ginger, and 1/4 cup of sugar. Cook down (careful — it’ll fizz up on you at first) to about half or until the mixture has the consistency of a barbecue sauce. Baste the turkey breasts with this mixture while grilling.
October 4, 2009 at 9:48 am
“ity virtues”
October 4, 2009 at 9:49 am
disparity…The quality of unequal.
October 4, 2009 at 9:49 am
It is the Kanye West Talk.
October 4, 2009 at 9:49 am
His tie is starting to grow on me. I maintain it’s a horrible color, but darn it, I like that tie. Bishop Burton is corrupting me!
October 4, 2009 at 9:49 am
vulgarity. The quality of vulgarness.
October 4, 2009 at 9:49 am
If you don’t add lots of fresh garlic, you might as well not even make it, Chad Too.
October 4, 2009 at 9:49 am
Brown at General Conference–a sure sign of the collapse of standards of formal wear.
October 4, 2009 at 9:49 am
Virtue Mailaise (sp?). Now he is channelling the Canadian philosopher Charles Taylor.
October 4, 2009 at 9:50 am
While I appreciate this talk, I can’t help but be worried that the list of what might happen will be continually quoted in Sunday School when people don’t want to be optimistic about the future.
October 4, 2009 at 9:50 am
Serena Williams, he’s talkin to you.
October 4, 2009 at 9:50 am
You put the minced garlic on the table, silly.
October 4, 2009 at 9:51 am
“EVEN the ‘ity’ virtues” !!!
October 4, 2009 at 9:51 am
In the marinade!
October 4, 2009 at 9:52 am
garlicity?
October 4, 2009 at 9:52 am
@NoCoolName_Tom (#133)–You can counter with Uchtdorf’s opening statement about optimism from his talk last night.
October 4, 2009 at 9:52 am
Ugh. Burton is bringing up the whole “blame the financial crisis on the debtors thing again.”
Just once, I’d like to see a General Authority acknowledge the blame that lies with the financial industry for our troubles.
In my experience, my bankruptcy clients have one debt that put them under – their mortgage.
And in case Burton has forgotten, our leadership basically gave the membership a free hall pass when it came to mortgages.
October 4, 2009 at 9:52 am
True, true. :-)
October 4, 2009 at 9:53 am
I testify that garlicity is a virtue, whether in the marinade or on the table I care not.
October 4, 2009 at 9:53 am
Bless you!
October 4, 2009 at 9:53 am
Indeed, Seth.
October 4, 2009 at 9:53 am
Seth, I fully agree.
October 4, 2009 at 9:53 am
Wait, so now we’re not supposed to blame the banking industry?
October 4, 2009 at 9:54 am
Seth, I fear people will overlook the problems caused by lenders as well and may take Bishop Burton’s comments there too far. :(
October 4, 2009 at 9:54 am
Shout out to Michael McLean!
October 4, 2009 at 9:54 am
Also, The Lost World. With Dinosaurs!!
October 4, 2009 at 9:56 am
Hubby says: Itty bitty virtues?
October 4, 2009 at 9:57 am
Re: Ann M. Dibbs: Will this be the first time a father and daughter have spoken in the same conference?
October 4, 2009 at 9:57 am
I can’t control what my lenders do, but I can control from whom I receive my loans.
October 4, 2009 at 9:57 am
(My wife just wondered much extra tithing was paid by Mormon real estate agents who knowingly sold houses with subprime mortgages to people who couldn’t afford them.)
October 4, 2009 at 9:57 am
Isn’t “How Firm a Foundation” sung every General Conference? Someday I want to see “If You Could Hie to Kolob” as the break hymn. Variety, people! Variety!
October 4, 2009 at 9:57 am
Education, cars, and houses.
Our leadership gave us an exemption on all of those things.
And guess which loans are always the ones that put my clients into bankruptcy?
Yup. Student loans, car loans, and adjustable rate mortgages.
October 4, 2009 at 9:58 am
“ity virtues?”
“ITY virtues?”
What the heck…
October 4, 2009 at 9:58 am
He used some powerful “ity” alliteration in his closing there.
October 4, 2009 at 9:59 am
I’m pretty sure Dibb has spoken before.
October 4, 2009 at 10:00 am
Seth 9#140), AMEN. Why is it that the GA talks traditionally do not reflect the need for accountability on the part of institutions and industries? He surely knows the vast numbers who were illegally misled and manipulated by unscrupulous lenders.
And thanks for the clarification, Xenologue (#123)!
October 4, 2009 at 10:00 am
It may be religiously fair game to take out those types of loans, but that doesn’t mean we get a free pass to take out more than we can reasonably afford. Yeah, the financial industry is rampant with corruption, but much of the time we have our own hand in our demise.
October 4, 2009 at 10:00 am
Yoohooo unto Jesus
October 4, 2009 at 10:00 am
Why is she smiling?!?
October 4, 2009 at 10:00 am
She seemed a little too happy about those deaths… :/
October 4, 2009 at 10:00 am
Should she be smiling while sharing this gruesome story?
October 4, 2009 at 10:00 am
Whoa, a huge smile while she talks about death and a collapsing scaffold. AHHHH!
October 4, 2009 at 10:01 am
Sad story but…
Shout out to my neighbourhood!
October 4, 2009 at 10:01 am
… whoa, I’m glad I’m just listening and not watching
October 4, 2009 at 10:01 am
She must be a nervous smiler.
October 4, 2009 at 10:01 am
“Insidious.” InsITYous?
October 4, 2009 at 10:01 am
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/10/03/AR2009100301508.html?hpid=sec-religion
October 4, 2009 at 10:02 am
How can you smile when you mention “4 people were killed”?
October 4, 2009 at 10:02 am
She had the traditional Monson passive voice construction down pat! ;-)
October 4, 2009 at 10:02 am
I’m anti-pink in general, but it looks good with her skin tone.
October 4, 2009 at 10:02 am
She had the traditional Monson passive voice construction down pat! ;-)
October 4, 2009 at 10:03 am
A lot of people smile when they are nervous. It’s how they hold themselves together.
October 4, 2009 at 10:04 am
I would be so happy if she said
“It’s pretty scary, I tell you what.”
October 4, 2009 at 10:04 am
Accidentally placed image of burning tree?
October 4, 2009 at 10:04 am
I think there was a mistake in the graphics.
October 4, 2009 at 10:04 am
Could be botox…
October 4, 2009 at 10:05 am
When she moves her head just so, you can see she’s got his genes… She tells a story just like him, too.
October 4, 2009 at 10:05 am
I love the Utah Mormon accent sometimes hehe. “Praw-futs.”
October 4, 2009 at 10:05 am
“Certain death”, with that smile. Creepy…
October 4, 2009 at 10:05 am
163–I was thinking the same thing. She has permasmile.
October 4, 2009 at 10:06 am
There we go, the right place for the tree….
October 4, 2009 at 10:06 am
Re. Bishop Burton: Why do people hate on the world? I don’t think it’s evil. I like the world.
But at least now we’ve got Sister Dibbs talking about workers. Sweet.
October 4, 2009 at 10:07 am
OK guys. She’s smiling and it’s not a good fit with the story.
But botox commentary is a bit much, don’t you think?
October 4, 2009 at 10:07 am
The women that speak always seem to be too happy when they talk. Always weirds me out a bit.
October 4, 2009 at 10:07 am
Minus the facial expression, this is a nice talk. Charity is kind, no?
October 4, 2009 at 10:08 am
“Get a grip”, you slackers.
October 4, 2009 at 10:08 am
#ldsconf is #8 in twitter trending topics.
October 4, 2009 at 10:08 am
Botox is a less disturbing explanation than sincerity, methinks.
October 4, 2009 at 10:08 am
I think this will be a nice talk to read later.
October 4, 2009 at 10:08 am
Actually, I like this talk. Lehi’s dream and anything having to do with the Tree of Life fills me with delight and glee.
October 4, 2009 at 10:09 am
“Hey, what’s that?”
“It’s an inanimate carbon rod!”
October 4, 2009 at 10:10 am
It’s like the Nixon debate. It’s a really excellent talk, provided you just listen and don’t watch.
October 4, 2009 at 10:10 am
Yes, a good talk, aside from any qualms over delivery.
October 4, 2009 at 10:10 am
So I was all excited that Sis. Dibbs spoke of the “rod of iron” instead of the “iron rod” – then she called it the iron rod. Phooey.
October 4, 2009 at 10:10 am
Ahhh, the weepy woman finish!!
October 4, 2009 at 10:10 am
Also, many people who have spent years working with youth develop permasmile to keep from killing them. Smiling and thoughts of death aren’t mutually exclusive. :)
October 4, 2009 at 10:10 am
Forgive me. But really, that’s not just Botox. It’s a bad eye job.
October 4, 2009 at 10:11 am
Weepy doesn’t bug me on her any more than it bugs me on any of the male speakers so far.
October 4, 2009 at 10:11 am
I like Elder Nelson’s tie. Nice color, nice pattern.
October 4, 2009 at 10:11 am
Except for the streams being choppy!
October 4, 2009 at 10:12 am
Scott B, as a former member of the Scroll newspaper, I think it is neat that your wife is helping the photographer out.
October 4, 2009 at 10:12 am
Me too Seth R.
October 4, 2009 at 10:12 am
I don’t say this enough, but I love my family…
October 4, 2009 at 10:13 am
When she started talking about dad, I expected to find it annoying. But it was touching and endearing. Some genuine humanity broke through that awkward permasmile.
October 4, 2009 at 10:13 am
Seth, don’t get me started. :)
October 4, 2009 at 10:13 am
Man, BYU.TV must have a pretty bad lag.
October 4, 2009 at 10:13 am
Wasn’t this a Seinfeld episode? :D
October 4, 2009 at 10:13 am
Elder Nelson must have a smart phone. I would hope that the Church would, however, embrace the only true and living smart phone–iPhone! It comes in white, you know. Perfect for temple meetings.
October 4, 2009 at 10:14 am
I think I’m on a HUGE delay!
October 4, 2009 at 10:14 am
I’ve had that happen to me: I awaken in the morning to find that I can’t read the notes I’d written on what seemed like brilliant thoughts in the middle of the night. Very frustrating.
October 4, 2009 at 10:14 am
#195 I could never get over the similarities between Nixon and Mr. Ed.
October 4, 2009 at 10:15 am
Tanya, #160, Yes, we are responsible–unfortunately people looked to lenders and other professionals to determine “what they could reasonably afford”. Its part of the lenders calculations. This is one of the responsibilities of being a professional–not to knowingly rip people off, or knowingly take advantage of ignorance when we expertise. Many of these people in charge had advance degrees from distinguished institutions of higher learning.
By this logic, we tell people to get their annual physicals, and if for some reason they are paralyzed by a procedure in the physical, then it was their own fault. If this became widespread, we’d still be blaming the patients rather than examining the systemic roots.
October 4, 2009 at 10:15 am
Oh no! Apple fan boy strikes again!
October 4, 2009 at 10:15 am
“Flaming globes, Sigmund!” was the line he wrote.
October 4, 2009 at 10:16 am
I am now regretting my decision 6 months ago to get a Blackberry instead of an iPhone, despite the fact that I save 40 bucks a month with the Berry.
October 4, 2009 at 10:16 am
In the movie Baby Mama, Tina Fey talks about the same thing — waking to write down a brilliant flash of insight, only to wake up in the morning to realize that she’d written “make everyone be twins.”
October 4, 2009 at 10:16 am
The Palm Pre is the only true phone.
October 4, 2009 at 10:16 am
Indeed, Rob. But there is a way back. Repent. ;)
October 4, 2009 at 10:16 am
Mosiah 3:19 getting heavy rotation this conference.
October 4, 2009 at 10:16 am
I figured I’m on a 9 minute delay. So unfair!
October 4, 2009 at 10:17 am
I have a testimony of the iPhone. It is the only true and living smart phone.
October 4, 2009 at 10:17 am
That repentance would cost me about 350 bucks to get out of my current contract.
October 4, 2009 at 10:17 am
meems: just think how witty all this repartee will be in less than ten minutes!
October 4, 2009 at 10:18 am
Brad, her other idea was “electric toilet.” Ouch.
October 4, 2009 at 10:18 am
Hm. Last conference Nelson gave a shout out to those who “suffered persecution” for righteousness’ sake, and now he’s talking about following the prophet….. Can we move on from Prop. 8 yet, people?
October 4, 2009 at 10:19 am
meems, I want to bear you my testimony of Comcast…
October 4, 2009 at 10:19 am
Ooh! another use of the word “supernal!”
October 4, 2009 at 10:19 am
supernal sighting
October 4, 2009 at 10:20 am
… still not having any problems with byub.org. Maybe because I opened my session during “Music and the Spoken Word”.
October 4, 2009 at 10:20 am
Natalie, Prop 8 never occurred to me in either of those moments — maybe YOU’re the one who needs to move on?
October 4, 2009 at 10:20 am
I’ve used an electric toilet befoer. One of the perks of serving a Japanese mission.
October 4, 2009 at 10:21 am
I’m looking forward to reading this talk. There’s a lot here.
October 4, 2009 at 10:21 am
“Personal revelation can be honed to become spiritual discernment. … With that gift sisters may view trends in the world and detect those that, however popular, are shallow or even dangerous.”
A slam against Twilight?
October 4, 2009 at 10:21 am
iphone-ing it from the stake center mother’s lounge, courtesy of a hyperactive nine-month-old. dunno what i’d do without the iphone.
i left the chapel as dibb started and doubled back because i was sure i misunderstood her tone of voice when talking about the four killed and several injured. i didn’t misunderstand. :(
October 4, 2009 at 10:21 am
Ardis beat me to it.
October 4, 2009 at 10:22 am
By the way, I hate Twilight, so if that’s the slam, I’m unrighteous happy and prideful about it and need to repent.
October 4, 2009 at 10:22 am
I guess I’m on a long delay, also, since #228 doesn’t make sense yet.
October 4, 2009 at 10:22 am
LOL Tanya 236 YES!
October 4, 2009 at 10:22 am
I don’t get a prop 8 vibe here, but there were definite overtones in his talk last conference.
October 4, 2009 at 10:23 am
Cool, he’s quoting that song from Saturday’s Warrior!
October 4, 2009 at 10:23 am
Brad, if the spirit’s still telling you to change, I’m not sure complaining to BCC is really going to help you much…
October 4, 2009 at 10:24 am
Tanya, I like twilight and took the quote to be that I can discern that on my own. Of course, I am not a sister.
October 4, 2009 at 10:24 am
I’ve always liked Elder Nelson. While still practicing medicine, he performed a life-saving surgery on a close relative of mine.
October 4, 2009 at 10:24 am
#242 – Perhaps that’s why I am quick to see it in this one.
October 4, 2009 at 10:25 am
Chris, since he focused on sisters, you’re in the clear ;-)
October 4, 2009 at 10:25 am
psychochemiker # 244,
I’m afraid I have no earthly idea what you’re talking about.
October 4, 2009 at 10:25 am
Brilliant talk, and one that will definitely need to be read.
October 4, 2009 at 10:25 am
Sweet.
October 4, 2009 at 10:25 am
I think it was Elder Nelson who brought “supernal” into LDS parlance, no? In the Special Witnesses of Christ film. Was it used earlier?
October 4, 2009 at 10:26 am
The brethren in the choir typically fare better in the wardrobe department than the sisters.
October 4, 2009 at 10:27 am
It’s tough to screw up a black suit, white shirt, and tie of any color.
October 4, 2009 at 10:27 am
Eddie, My thoughts exactly. Head to toe in lavender, yikes.
October 4, 2009 at 10:27 am
It’s interesting how many talks so far this weekend have mentioned personal revelation prominently.
October 4, 2009 at 10:28 am
Boyd K Packer used Supernal back in 1975 here.
October 4, 2009 at 10:28 am
I don’t get all the lavender-dress hate. I think they are pretty. Trying to get 150 different women to look good in the same dress is always going to be a trial.
October 4, 2009 at 10:28 am
I think President Hinckley and his daughter Virginia Pearce may have spoken in the same session.
October 4, 2009 at 10:29 am
I’ve noticed that as well, Ray.
October 4, 2009 at 10:29 am
“Beautiful….Singing, and in appearance.”
Are you kidding me?!?!
October 4, 2009 at 10:29 am
President Monson likes the dresses….
October 4, 2009 at 10:29 am
apparently monson likes the dresses more than I do.
October 4, 2009 at 10:30 am
“And what did you do for someone today?”
October 4, 2009 at 10:30 am
Supernal find, psychoche
October 4, 2009 at 10:30 am
During the introduction to the song, my daughter said, “Whoa, why four hands on one guy?”
October 4, 2009 at 10:31 am
#261-263 – there is a downside to a delay. Now, when he finally says that, it will be anti-climatic.
October 4, 2009 at 10:31 am
Supernal sitings in General conference before 1972:
1888 – Franklin D. Richards
1940 – Stephen L. Richards
1962 – Hugh B. Brown
1969 – Hugh B. Brown
October 4, 2009 at 10:31 am
“serving the working uninsured” (as opposed to the laid-off uninsured? are they less deserving of health care?)
October 4, 2009 at 10:31 am
Shout out to health care reform?
October 4, 2009 at 10:32 am
Not everyone in the world hates lavender.
October 4, 2009 at 10:32 am
“Each of us can do something to help someone.”
October 4, 2009 at 10:32 am
The lavender looked just fine.
October 4, 2009 at 10:33 am
Stape: which site did you use?
October 4, 2009 at 10:34 am
“Often times we live side by side but do not communicate heart to heart.”
October 4, 2009 at 10:34 am
Shout out to the teachings of a Methodist minister.
October 4, 2009 at 10:34 am
wow, two second delay. I don’t think the delay is constant, it changes quite a bit.
October 4, 2009 at 10:35 am
which site did you use?
Bunker hewn from granite.
October 4, 2009 at 10:35 am
I also think the government-run free clinics in Philly are very effective, even though the people working there are paid. Does paying my city taxes count as service here?
October 4, 2009 at 10:36 am
haha nice Peter
October 4, 2009 at 10:36 am
btw: streaming KSL radio via the IPhone app is only about a 10 second delay
October 4, 2009 at 10:36 am
“We become so caught up in the busyness of our life. Were we to step back, however, and take a good look at what we’re doing, we may find we’ve immersed ourselves in the thick of thin things. In other words, too often we spend most of our time taking care of the things which do not matter much in the grand scheme of things, neglecting those more important causes.”
October 4, 2009 at 10:36 am
For shame, Natalie. Peddle your socialistic wares elsewhere.
October 4, 2009 at 10:37 am
We can’t all build clinics… I”m reminded of Mother Teresa: “just small things with great love.”
October 4, 2009 at 10:37 am
“We are the Lord’s hands here upon the earth, with a mandate to serve and lift his children. He is dependent on each of us.”
October 4, 2009 at 10:37 am
“We’ve immersed ourselves in the thick of thin things.”
This is a powerful message.
October 4, 2009 at 10:38 am
AHAHA! We do “Warm Fuzzies” in theatre all the time for cast/crew!
October 4, 2009 at 10:38 am
#284 – He’s saying exactly that, Ariel.
October 4, 2009 at 10:38 am
I’m getting warm fuzzies all over.
October 4, 2009 at 10:38 am
“thick of thin things” is a quote from Holland, not sure when
October 4, 2009 at 10:38 am
BYU football should switch to lavender unis. Would make them more manly then they currently are.
October 4, 2009 at 10:38 am
Re. 283:
Does that mean I shouldn’t publicly interpret this whole talk as a call to activism?
Where’s my bullhorn?!
October 4, 2009 at 10:38 am
I’ll admit that Thomas S. Monson is not, nor has he ever been, my favorite speaker.
But that said, I think the main message he has to offer to the Church, is his extraordinary ethic of service. This is a hugely valuable contribution, and I’m glad he’s here to make it.
October 4, 2009 at 10:39 am
Children across the Church are cringing now at the thought of cleaning up stuff.
October 4, 2009 at 10:39 am
chad too, WHAT?! you mean i can listen through my iphone???
October 4, 2009 at 10:39 am
281 — Chad — That may be reason enough to pay that $350 repentance fee.
October 4, 2009 at 10:39 am
#274 – NMS CD-ROM
October 4, 2009 at 10:40 am
http://www.ksl.com/?sid=4464916&nid=310
October 4, 2009 at 10:40 am
At least Monson teaches service as coming from a love of God instead of a tax imposed by the government. That’s the difference between church and state.
October 4, 2009 at 10:40 am
292,
Activism, socialism, and radical community organizing. Don’t you know how insidious the “service” spoken of here is, how threatening to patriotism and the memory of 9/11?!?!?
October 4, 2009 at 10:41 am
Weepy man middle-of-the-talk moment. Ugh!
Before you jump on me, I’m kidding. Just pointing out that men cry too, not just women.
October 4, 2009 at 10:42 am
If there was enough service in the world to not have to rely on tax dollars, that would be great.
October 4, 2009 at 10:42 am
psychochemiker: shove it.
October 4, 2009 at 10:42 am
#299: The service of the taxpayers got my husband treatment when he was sick when there were no doctors willing to do so for free. That gives me warm fuzzies.
October 4, 2009 at 10:42 am
#295 There are a number of cool LDS apps. We listened on the iPhone yesterday afternoon when we are out. All the Scriptures and manuals are on another app. The ward and stake lists are on another app. Very impressive use of technology!
October 4, 2009 at 10:42 am
psycho: when I know my taxes help those in need I don’t feel much of an imposition. :)
October 4, 2009 at 10:43 am
#302 – Amen, queuno.
These stories are awesome examples of “little things” that aren’t little at all.
October 4, 2009 at 10:43 am
queuno: Amen and Amen, brother.
October 4, 2009 at 10:44 am
Turning this into a political fight is pathetic. Stop now. You will be banned.
October 4, 2009 at 10:44 am
Sorry BHodges. I’m not allowed to respond.
I’m being censored by Chris Henrickson. That’s how he’s serving me today. Thanks Chris.
October 4, 2009 at 10:44 am
#303 – Chris, deep breath please. Service shows itself in many ways.
October 4, 2009 at 10:44 am
#305, I don’t even bring scriptures to church anymore, just my iPhone. I teach my primary lessons from it too. The downside is that people think you’re texting during sacrament meeting when you’re really just looking up a scripture.
October 4, 2009 at 10:44 am
So Pres. Monson’s talk marks the first time I have ever heard reference to warm fuzzies outside of the drug prevention field.
October 4, 2009 at 10:44 am
Nobody ever sings this hymn right, although it is often quoted.
October 4, 2009 at 10:45 am
Hold on just a second while I ban J. Stapley…
October 4, 2009 at 10:45 am
The stories of the service of children have reduced me to tears.
October 4, 2009 at 10:45 am
This brings to mind that old BYU film “The mailbox.”
October 4, 2009 at 10:46 am
ending early again.
October 4, 2009 at 10:46 am
Ray, that was my charitable version. psychochemiker, that was meant sarcastically. Sorry. Natalie, I am with you.
October 4, 2009 at 10:46 am
300–Are you all trying to get me to pay that fee to switch?
October 4, 2009 at 10:46 am
how is it sung incorrectly?
October 4, 2009 at 10:46 am
“Turning this into a political fight is pathetic.”
We were fighting? :( I thought blog comments didn’t count as fighting until there were caps and exclamation points.
October 4, 2009 at 10:46 am
I love taxpayer supported service, in addition to volunteer service: military service, the Peace Corps, Americorps, Teach for America, Service-Learning, the Corporation for National and Community Service…all worthy causes. No where is it written in Scripture not to engage in good causes if they are taxpayer supported.
October 4, 2009 at 10:47 am
just saw my friend Edye in the choir! Woot!
October 4, 2009 at 10:47 am
It’s not a true fight until Nazis are invoked.
October 4, 2009 at 10:47 am
When was the last time the final speaker say AMEN at 15 minutes before the hour?!?!
October 4, 2009 at 10:47 am
(Sorry, wasn’t trying to focus on the politics. Just trying to push us to more service. You wouldn’t have to pay taxes to clean up city parks if there were more service.)
October 4, 2009 at 10:48 am
You can listen to Conference on iPhone’s Mormon Channel app. I was out working yesterday and caught several talks on my iPhone. I think Blackberry also has that app, right? Or perhaps it is being developed.
October 4, 2009 at 10:48 am
Yeah, Nazis or Teach for America!
October 4, 2009 at 10:48 am
You all have the closing song? I haven’t even hit Monson’s amen.
This sorta feels like fighting with one arm behind my back.
October 4, 2009 at 10:48 am
A friend and I used to sing:
Have I played any tricks in the ward today
Have I done a mischievous deed?
Have I done something bad
And made someone get mad
If not I have failed indeed
Has anyone’s life been made harder today
Because I had nothing to do?
If you thought it was funny, then don’t laugh too loud
Cuz next time the joke is on you…
(we never quite worked out the chorus, but it started out “So wake up, and don’t turn your back, there’s no telling what I might do…”)
October 4, 2009 at 10:49 am
J Stapley.
I find it quite inappropriate to allow CH’s comments to stand and ban mine.
I don’t know how “shove it” is appropriate is allowed.
Good bye J.
Wish you the best, but you’re not fair.
October 4, 2009 at 10:49 am
anyone else still absent mindedly launch into the line about ‘the world has no need of the drone’ when singing this in sacrament mtg?
October 4, 2009 at 10:49 am
the rhythm in the hymnbook for “doing good is a treasure/a joy beyond measue/ a blessing of duty and love” is supposed to be scotch snaps (sixteenth note followed by dotted eighth). Nobody does it because it is awkward, but that is what is written. Not even the choir sings it right.
“doing good is a TREAsure a joy beyond MEAsure…” etc.
October 4, 2009 at 10:49 am
Appropriate song, given the last talk. (Yes, I’m on a delay.)
October 4, 2009 at 10:49 am
Interesting arrangement.
October 4, 2009 at 10:49 am
Ben,
I hope you do not become a GA. That weepy stuff annoys everyone. (Luckily, I am out of the running for other reasons).
October 4, 2009 at 10:49 am
I love the focus on service. We definitely need more citizens of every nation focused on giving service to others.
October 4, 2009 at 10:50 am
Blackberry is slow to develop anything. If anyone knows any good mormon apps, let me know. Space is limiting too though.
October 4, 2009 at 10:50 am
But the Mormon Channel app doesn’t get you Greg Wrubell and the Cougars when the evil The Mtn. decrees you don’t get to watch the football game without submitting to their Nazi usury.
October 4, 2009 at 10:50 am
chad too is my hero. i may ditch the stake center this afternoon! THANK YOU! you just made this mother’s load lighter!
October 4, 2009 at 10:51 am
xeno: your song makes my primary attempt at parody songs look foolish. “surf, palm trees and play/are the things that I must do…”
October 4, 2009 at 10:52 am
#337- I’m writing a letter to SLC recommending you for future service as a GA. :-)
October 4, 2009 at 10:52 am
t’weren’t nuthin…
October 4, 2009 at 10:52 am
Just finished Pres M’s talk and I loved it. I feel so inspired!
October 4, 2009 at 10:52 am
His tie for the win!!!!
October 4, 2009 at 10:52 am
Chelseaw #311–I teach my Gospel Principles class using the iPhone, too! Very nifty–and looking up the scriptures in the lessons in a snap! The highlighting feature is cool, also.
October 4, 2009 at 10:52 am
psychochemiker,
I just sprung your comment from purgatory. I hope you feel better.
October 4, 2009 at 10:52 am
TIME FOR BELGIAN WAFFLES!!!!!
October 4, 2009 at 10:53 am
(I mean the guy giving the closing prayer)
October 4, 2009 at 10:53 am
BHodges> Oh, we expended quite a bit of effort on our parody songs. We were especially known for a rousing, off-key rendition of “Young and Single”, to the tune of “Called to Serve”. Brought the house down.
October 4, 2009 at 10:53 am
psychochemiker,
I said sorry. Both of our comment are still there. Peace be unto you.
October 4, 2009 at 10:54 am
Agreed, Melissa S.
October 4, 2009 at 10:54 am
I know it will be a long time yet before there are any conference talks given not in English, but do you think we’ll see prayers in native languages any time soon? I would LOVE that.
October 4, 2009 at 10:54 am
I spotted a couple light blue ties on the GAs. I really like light blue ties. They’re my favorite tie color.
October 4, 2009 at 10:54 am
But the Mormon Channel app doesn’t get you Greg Wrubell and the Cougars when the evil The Mtn. decrees you don’t get to watch the football game without submitting to their Nazi usury.
Wait, you root for BYU and their incompetent choice of incompetent broadcoast networks? (IMO, they deserve the loss of a generation’s worth of fans they are currently experiencing.)
October 4, 2009 at 10:54 am
I am starting to think seriously about that iphone thing though. Even if I do have to pay the penalty.
October 4, 2009 at 10:54 am
I love that the wives of the 12 and 1st Presidency were seated on the stand and greeted their husbands at the end of the session. That was awesome!!
October 4, 2009 at 10:55 am
Ooh, Melissa had her eyes open during the prayer!!!!
October 4, 2009 at 10:55 am
Prayers would be even more impossible, that will probably never happen because prayers are even more unscripted.
October 4, 2009 at 10:55 am
It is cool to see the exit process in more detail since it got over early.
October 4, 2009 at 10:56 am
Natalie> HOW DO YOU KNOW?? :D LOL
October 4, 2009 at 10:56 am
Melissa, I missed the praying guy’s tie. I had to rewind. Now my eyes are bleeding!
October 4, 2009 at 10:57 am
queuno, I don’t completely disagree, though a good portion of the blame rests on pressure from the Mountain West conference as well as local football leadership.
October 4, 2009 at 10:57 am
I actually missed the guy’s tie because as soon as the closing song hit, my husband switched the TV to football on mute and we only listened to the last part.
October 4, 2009 at 10:58 am
Oooh, Natalie, thanks for the football reminder. I almost forgot.
October 4, 2009 at 10:58 am
I like the obvious love and gentleness of the greetings between the spouses – and the fact that a couple of the widowers in the 12 were supporting each other as they walked out. That sight choked me up a bit.
October 4, 2009 at 10:58 am
Chris, hopefully we’ll get called at the same time so we can sit by each other.
October 4, 2009 at 10:58 am
I always pray with my eyes open. I’m a rebel like that…
October 4, 2009 at 10:59 am
Turning this into a fight about BYU football is pathetic. I’m watching you, Chad and queuno…
October 4, 2009 at 10:59 am
Is political fighting okay now that we’re between sessions?
October 4, 2009 at 11:00 am
I imagine that, logistically, it just makes sense to have everything spoken in English, and then translated. Imagine the difficulty of having folks who can translate every language to every other language! (Maybe when the Church buys Google and uses their translation services…)
October 4, 2009 at 11:00 am
For me, this was the highlight of the session, seriously. Just amazing.
October 4, 2009 at 11:02 am
Natalie,
We should just agree that you and I are right and leave the fight for a different time.
October 4, 2009 at 11:02 am
(There is no mtn without BYU and Utah. They deserve the product they got.)
I loved the choice of primary songs in this session.
October 4, 2009 at 11:02 am
On a completely unrelated note, after our contract with Comcast basic cable is used up, I am pretty certain I will suggest that my wife and I get some sort of satellite programming so we can watch conference on TV, rather than on her computer…
October 4, 2009 at 11:03 am
Haven’t heard from Holland yet… saving the big guns?
October 4, 2009 at 11:06 am
Ben #377, I always imagined the Twelve drawing lots for their conference speaking order.
October 4, 2009 at 11:06 am
No Holland or Christofferson.
October 4, 2009 at 11:07 am
Alex, you missed the whole discussion of translators yesterday. Someone calculated that you would need about 1 x 10^142 translators.
October 4, 2009 at 11:08 am
In wards I have lived in with simultaneous translators, the prayers were not translated.
October 4, 2009 at 11:10 am
Nothing that doesn’t appear in the church periodicals requires translating.
October 4, 2009 at 11:15 am
I’m pretty sure the GC translators translate the prayers. At least the Chinese ones do.
October 4, 2009 at 11:19 am
They do. But it isn’t necessary is what I’m saying.
October 4, 2009 at 11:20 am
Okay, yeah, I agree.
October 4, 2009 at 11:23 am
Given all the talks on love, I would think it would be perfect if the tabernacle choir sang the song “What the world needs now is love, sweet love.”
Did anyone else here a chime in the middle of the conference? Does that coincide with each hour?
Beautiful Zion Built Up Above….
what memories of the Japanese pseudolyrics that are ubiquitous among missionaries in Japan…
October 4, 2009 at 11:23 am
When I worked at a radio station in Provo, we used to get advanced copies of the talks and speaking order. I miss that.
October 4, 2009 at 11:25 am
I love the focus on service….I just wish it can reach the local membership/leadership! Countless Potlucks and picnics are great but years without a service project is sad. Yeah, I said years.
Also when we will see a sister offering a prayer in General Conference?
October 4, 2009 at 11:35 am
Ben,
That was me, but I did it wrong. I did the math for ordering not translating. It’s even worse.
Translating every single language into every other for 92 languages would be 91^92 which is 1E180. Yeah, not that many people in the world.
October 4, 2009 at 11:38 am
The chime you heard, Rigel, may have been the Nauvoo Bell.
My husband does simultaneous translation and translates the prayers (except for the sacrament prayers). YMMV.
I now suspect I dreamed this, but I remember a prayer in Chinese at the RS sesquicentennial broadcast.
October 4, 2009 at 11:43 am
I’m no math major, but why isn’t it just 92 times 92?
October 4, 2009 at 11:52 am
Jessica–If we ever see a sister offering a prayer in GC, I’m sure it will be a closing prayer.
October 4, 2009 at 11:53 am
“just 92 times 92″
“a hundred million here and a hundred million there and pretty soon it adds up to some real money”
:)
October 4, 2009 at 12:03 pm
#392: Either that, or an opening prayer, depending on which version of the unwritten rule you apply.
October 4, 2009 at 12:05 pm
@Rigel (#386),
Beautiful Zion Built Up Above….
what memories of the Japanese pseudolyrics that are ubiquitous among missionaries in Japan…
So this hymn is big in Japan too? It was certainly big in Hong Kong (see my comment #46 above).
October 4, 2009 at 12:22 pm
Good session this morning
October 4, 2009 at 12:24 pm
I just popped in to see if I was the only person who was weirded out by the smiling Sister Dibb talking about the scaffolding deaths. Apparently I wasn’t. What was that about? Creepers.
October 4, 2009 at 12:47 pm
Okay, you know, I really feel like chiming in on this whole unwritten rule thing here to point out that, at least hereabouts, it doesn’t exist. As the Exec Sec, I have the great fun of asking folks to pray in sacrament meeting and I’ve done all the prayer combinations: brother-brother, brother-sister, sister-brother, and sister-sister. There has not yet been any protest. So what’s the deal?
(And yes, I know it has been discussed at great length elsewhere, so I don’t expect a discussion of it here, but I just wanted to call out a BS on this claim.)
October 4, 2009 at 12:56 pm
alextvalencic, of course it’s BS (I suspect those mentioning it here would agree), but that doesn’t keep the women-aren’t-worthy-to-pray rule from being perpetuated under the name of an “unwritten rule.”
But, hey, while you’re calling out, maybe you can contact one of my last FOUR bishops/stake presidents (Boca Raton, Florida; Orem, Utah; Eagle Mountain, Utah; Lindon, Utah). They all think it’s doctrine and trying to discuss it just gets you labeled a heretic.
October 4, 2009 at 12:58 pm
Note that I just posted a new thread for the afternoon session!
October 4, 2009 at 1:00 pm
See, Alison, that just adds to my reasons to not live in Utah. ;-) Okay, time to get geared up for the last session!
October 4, 2009 at 1:03 pm
Allison, I haven’t read the comments. But me and my husband were totally creeped out. She must have been really nervous—or something. It was very very weird.
October 4, 2009 at 1:03 pm
Or Florida, or my Boca bishop’s previous stake on the East Coast, or any of the other multitudes of states that have stakes that implement this policy.
After writing that post a number of years ago, the feedback I get is that about a third of the wards seem to do this. Often people don’t even realize it until they hear about it and start paying attention.
October 4, 2009 at 1:36 pm
I just returned from the conference center for the morning session. Pres. Monson’s talk was for the me greatest and most prophetic talk I have ever heard in General Conference. I struggled from the beginning to keep my tears held back, as was so much of those around me who were wiping the creeping tears from their own eyes.
October 4, 2009 at 4:41 pm
Did Bishop Burton’s remarks remind anyone else of these Tom Lehrer lyrics?