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		<title>By: Aaron B</title>
		<link>http://bycommonconsent.com/2009/11/24/your-evolution-book-gift-giving-guide-for-christmas/#comment-168825</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Aaron B]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Dec 2009 02:34:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Wow, twitterpated, that comment ought to win some kind of award.  Not the type you&#039;d want to display on your mantle though, or show your grandkids.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow, twitterpated, that comment ought to win some kind of award.  Not the type you&#8217;d want to display on your mantle though, or show your grandkids.</p>
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		<title>By: Dan Weston</title>
		<link>http://bycommonconsent.com/2009/11/24/your-evolution-book-gift-giving-guide-for-christmas/#comment-168823</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Dan Weston]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Dec 2009 01:31:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[P.S. Thanks for the link. Now I know what the words coccolithophore, biflagellated, chromatophore, and calcareous mean. In truth, I had a good guess what these last three were, but it&#039;s nice to be sure!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>P.S. Thanks for the link. Now I know what the words coccolithophore, biflagellated, chromatophore, and calcareous mean. In truth, I had a good guess what these last three were, but it&#8217;s nice to be sure!</p>
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		<title>By: Dan Weston</title>
		<link>http://bycommonconsent.com/2009/11/24/your-evolution-book-gift-giving-guide-for-christmas/#comment-168822</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Dan Weston]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Dec 2009 01:27:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[#19 twitterpated,

If I can read up on Mormonism to better understand my fellow human beings, it would not kill you to reciprocate, and for the very same reason.

Although, judging by your tone (and granted, it is always perilous to judge others by their tone), perhaps it would kill you...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#19 twitterpated,</p>
<p>If I can read up on Mormonism to better understand my fellow human beings, it would not kill you to reciprocate, and for the very same reason.</p>
<p>Although, judging by your tone (and granted, it is always perilous to judge others by their tone), perhaps it would kill you&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: twitterpated</title>
		<link>http://bycommonconsent.com/2009/11/24/your-evolution-book-gift-giving-guide-for-christmas/#comment-168815</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[twitterpated]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Dec 2009 22:55:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Yep. The best books are those that spin a yarn too long to dangle in front of a cat&#039;s face. That&#039;s what we need for Christmas ... the atheistic viewpoint on things.

It&#039;s so incumbent upon us to be up on evolutionary presuppositions. Evolution is a hypothesis masquerading as a theory pretending to be a fact  (**gasp for air**) that life somehow came about through unspecified and unidentified nothing dressed up to be something -- not that evolutionists know where it came from, of course, or what it was, or anything in particular about it. Theories on the origin of life are not actually part of evolution, an evolutionist will proudly say, but there is some thought that possibly a blob of cyanide activated by lightening got really frisky and spawned all life. But, be that as it may, it&#039;s exciting to read about bears that crawled into the ocean to become whales in a crazed morass of DNA gone ape. And there&#039;s always the added bonus of excusability of the crassness one&#039;s near relations -- well, he just hasn&#039;t evolved yet.

Yeah! And if you just can&#039;t accept that random genomes danced their way into everything through a spinning vortex of nothing, just say God was fiddling his thumbs, watching it from the sofa, taking time out to pop some popcorn and channel surf a little. (After all, the process took MILLIONS of years ... can someone say ... BORING?) Oh sure, God is clueless and we have it all figured out, right in our little brains. God&#039;s a dolt. He has to muck around with evolution because he doesn&#039;t know any more effective method. That&#039;s why DNA is such a complete and intricate pattern that codes for replication of specific forms of life, all in their proper order. It&#039;s because God didn&#039;t know what he was doing. Yep. Unlike a talented seamstress who knows just how to efficiently put together a dress, God had to throw some microorganisms around in a soup and dawdle around for MILLIONS of years, hoping it would turn out somehow. And it did! What luck! It couldn&#039;t be that he knew what he was doing all along and made all things, each after their own kind, just as he said. Hey, God&#039;s a liar and Dawkins is a pillar of truth, don&#039;t ya know?

Sure! Let&#039;s sell out to the secular world, so that we, too, can pronounce the word &quot;coccolithophorid&quot; and mamba our way through the Jurassic Period.

Oh, we can do that for Christmas. After all, the Lord won&#039;t mind if we discount his word, throwing out the Bible for a bunch of nonsense some yahoos made up, and all on the day we remember Christ&#039;s birth. Darwinism for Christmas is all the rage. Who could pass that up?

Well, I for one could. Rather than read up on evolution for Christmas, I have a better idea. Instead of playing games with the evolutionists, trying to find out which one of us can memorize the most scientific names incapable of being pronounced, let&#039;s give the gift of Christ this Christmas. Let&#039;s give the gift of the gospel message and eternal life. Let&#039;s rejoice in God our Savior, the Creator of all things. Let&#039;s proclaim the truth for all to hear: Christ, the Lord, has has visited and redeemed his people, that we might serve him in holiness and righteousness without fear. And that includes without fear of what an evolutionist thinks when we believe God rather than men.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yep. The best books are those that spin a yarn too long to dangle in front of a cat&#8217;s face. That&#8217;s what we need for Christmas &#8230; the atheistic viewpoint on things.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s so incumbent upon us to be up on evolutionary presuppositions. Evolution is a hypothesis masquerading as a theory pretending to be a fact  (**gasp for air**) that life somehow came about through unspecified and unidentified nothing dressed up to be something &#8212; not that evolutionists know where it came from, of course, or what it was, or anything in particular about it. Theories on the origin of life are not actually part of evolution, an evolutionist will proudly say, but there is some thought that possibly a blob of cyanide activated by lightening got really frisky and spawned all life. But, be that as it may, it&#8217;s exciting to read about bears that crawled into the ocean to become whales in a crazed morass of DNA gone ape. And there&#8217;s always the added bonus of excusability of the crassness one&#8217;s near relations &#8212; well, he just hasn&#8217;t evolved yet.</p>
<p>Yeah! And if you just can&#8217;t accept that random genomes danced their way into everything through a spinning vortex of nothing, just say God was fiddling his thumbs, watching it from the sofa, taking time out to pop some popcorn and channel surf a little. (After all, the process took MILLIONS of years &#8230; can someone say &#8230; BORING?) Oh sure, God is clueless and we have it all figured out, right in our little brains. God&#8217;s a dolt. He has to muck around with evolution because he doesn&#8217;t know any more effective method. That&#8217;s why DNA is such a complete and intricate pattern that codes for replication of specific forms of life, all in their proper order. It&#8217;s because God didn&#8217;t know what he was doing. Yep. Unlike a talented seamstress who knows just how to efficiently put together a dress, God had to throw some microorganisms around in a soup and dawdle around for MILLIONS of years, hoping it would turn out somehow. And it did! What luck! It couldn&#8217;t be that he knew what he was doing all along and made all things, each after their own kind, just as he said. Hey, God&#8217;s a liar and Dawkins is a pillar of truth, don&#8217;t ya know?</p>
<p>Sure! Let&#8217;s sell out to the secular world, so that we, too, can pronounce the word &#8220;coccolithophorid&#8221; and mamba our way through the Jurassic Period.</p>
<p>Oh, we can do that for Christmas. After all, the Lord won&#8217;t mind if we discount his word, throwing out the Bible for a bunch of nonsense some yahoos made up, and all on the day we remember Christ&#8217;s birth. Darwinism for Christmas is all the rage. Who could pass that up?</p>
<p>Well, I for one could. Rather than read up on evolution for Christmas, I have a better idea. Instead of playing games with the evolutionists, trying to find out which one of us can memorize the most scientific names incapable of being pronounced, let&#8217;s give the gift of Christ this Christmas. Let&#8217;s give the gift of the gospel message and eternal life. Let&#8217;s rejoice in God our Savior, the Creator of all things. Let&#8217;s proclaim the truth for all to hear: Christ, the Lord, has has visited and redeemed his people, that we might serve him in holiness and righteousness without fear. And that includes without fear of what an evolutionist thinks when we believe God rather than men.</p>
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		<title>By: SteveP</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[SteveP]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Nov 2009 00:53:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I fixed the link (16), thanks Silus for pointing that out.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I fixed the link (16), thanks Silus for pointing that out.</p>
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		<title>By: Silus Grok</title>
		<link>http://bycommonconsent.com/2009/11/24/your-evolution-book-gift-giving-guide-for-christmas/#comment-167803</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Silus Grok]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Nov 2009 22:57:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Also, if someone remembers the post which directly addresses HighTower&#039;s oblique reference (it may be here, or, perhaps, T&amp;S), I&#039;d appreciate it. I&#039;d love a refresher.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Also, if someone remembers the post which directly addresses HighTower&#8217;s oblique reference (it may be here, or, perhaps, T&amp;S), I&#8217;d appreciate it. I&#8217;d love a refresher.</p>
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		<title>By: Silus Grok</title>
		<link>http://bycommonconsent.com/2009/11/24/your-evolution-book-gift-giving-guide-for-christmas/#comment-167802</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Silus Grok]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Nov 2009 22:53:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The link for the Authoritative Statements is messed up.

Thanks for all these recommendations! Added to my Amazon wishlist.

:)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The link for the Authoritative Statements is messed up.</p>
<p>Thanks for all these recommendations! Added to my Amazon wishlist.</p>
<p>:)</p>
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		<title>By: Tim</title>
		<link>http://bycommonconsent.com/2009/11/24/your-evolution-book-gift-giving-guide-for-christmas/#comment-167636</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Tim]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Nov 2009 18:10:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Anony,
The old Eyring book (Reflections of a scientist), if their problem is that they believe the gospel and evolution are incompatible (and if they also have other creationist beliefs such as age of the earth, etc.)  
Eyring spends very little time on evolution, and just a chapter or so on the age of the earth, but it&#039;s just enough to show, look, you can be a good member and accept good science.
Once they&#039;re to that point, then hit them with Fairbanks or Miller.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Anony,<br />
The old Eyring book (Reflections of a scientist), if their problem is that they believe the gospel and evolution are incompatible (and if they also have other creationist beliefs such as age of the earth, etc.)<br />
Eyring spends very little time on evolution, and just a chapter or so on the age of the earth, but it&#8217;s just enough to show, look, you can be a good member and accept good science.<br />
Once they&#8217;re to that point, then hit them with Fairbanks or Miller.</p>
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		<title>By: GaroldK</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[GaroldK]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Nov 2009 17:52:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Another recent book that I enjoyed is &quot;Life Ascending: The Ten Great Inventions of Evolution&quot; by biochemist Nick Lane.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Another recent book that I enjoyed is &#8220;Life Ascending: The Ten Great Inventions of Evolution&#8221; by biochemist Nick Lane.</p>
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		<title>By: SteveP</title>
		<link>http://bycommonconsent.com/2009/11/24/your-evolution-book-gift-giving-guide-for-christmas/#comment-167619</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[SteveP]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Nov 2009 16:39:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Anony, start with Dan Fairbanks or Ken Miller&#039;s first book.

Cheryl--Totally agree. I&#039;ve read both &lt;em&gt;Mother Nature&lt;/em&gt; and am reading now &lt;em&gt;Mothers and Others now&lt;/em&gt;.  Wonderful! (but a little more intro to evolution might be necessary if you don&#039;t know anything about it, they sort of assume you are on board with evolution already).]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Anony, start with Dan Fairbanks or Ken Miller&#8217;s first book.</p>
<p>Cheryl&#8211;Totally agree. I&#8217;ve read both <em>Mother Nature</em> and am reading now <em>Mothers and Others now</em>.  Wonderful! (but a little more intro to evolution might be necessary if you don&#8217;t know anything about it, they sort of assume you are on board with evolution already).</p>
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