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	<title>Comments on: Our Voices, Our Visions: A Mormon Women&#8217;s Literary Tour</title>
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		<title>By: m&#38;m</title>
		<link>http://bycommonconsent.com/2010/03/08/our-voices-our-visions-a-mormon-womens-literary-tour/#comment-178844</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Mar 2010 06:06:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;i&gt;m&amp;m, what sort of deliberate instructional effort do you think would be appropriate to include in this event, given its purpose?&lt;/i&gt;

I can imagine some simple explanations for those possibly unfamiliar with the different &quot;branches&quot; of &quot;Mormonism&quot; -- what they share in terms of doctrine, where in history (and why) the different groups diverge. I think a brief historical outline/background intro could be helpful so as not to further the confusion about what *most* people mean when they talk about &quot;the Mormons.&quot; People are already confused about &quot;Mormonism&quot; and Mormon womanhood (as in, &quot;Can Mormon women wear pants?&quot; kinds of questions). 

To me, it seems a little contradictory to say that &quot;we&quot; (&quot;Mormon women&quot;) should be telling &quot;our&quot; stories when I think in most LDS people&#039;s minds, those of non-mainstream branches of Mormonism are still &quot;non-Mormons.&quot; 

Again, I think there is value in shared dialogue and shared stages and shared stories, but I think value is lost if you  aren&#039;t clear about the fact that being &quot;Mormon&quot; can mean different things to different people. Otherwise, in telling too-broadly defined &quot;Mormon&quot; stories to a national audience, I think this can risk perpetuating the confusion the Church has been pretty deliberate to try to dispel regarding what the mainstream Church is all about.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>m&amp;m, what sort of deliberate instructional effort do you think would be appropriate to include in this event, given its purpose?</i></p>
<p>I can imagine some simple explanations for those possibly unfamiliar with the different &#8220;branches&#8221; of &#8220;Mormonism&#8221; &#8212; what they share in terms of doctrine, where in history (and why) the different groups diverge. I think a brief historical outline/background intro could be helpful so as not to further the confusion about what *most* people mean when they talk about &#8220;the Mormons.&#8221; People are already confused about &#8220;Mormonism&#8221; and Mormon womanhood (as in, &#8220;Can Mormon women wear pants?&#8221; kinds of questions). </p>
<p>To me, it seems a little contradictory to say that &#8220;we&#8221; (&#8220;Mormon women&#8221;) should be telling &#8220;our&#8221; stories when I think in most LDS people&#8217;s minds, those of non-mainstream branches of Mormonism are still &#8220;non-Mormons.&#8221; </p>
<p>Again, I think there is value in shared dialogue and shared stages and shared stories, but I think value is lost if you  aren&#8217;t clear about the fact that being &#8220;Mormon&#8221; can mean different things to different people. Otherwise, in telling too-broadly defined &#8220;Mormon&#8221; stories to a national audience, I think this can risk perpetuating the confusion the Church has been pretty deliberate to try to dispel regarding what the mainstream Church is all about.</p>
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		<title>By: chanson</title>
		<link>http://bycommonconsent.com/2010/03/08/our-voices-our-visions-a-mormon-womens-literary-tour/#comment-178690</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[chanson]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Mar 2010 18:28:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Sorry for the link error, the second one is &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.spaff.com/sr/92photos/tito_joanna_worky.jpg&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;here&lt;/a&gt;.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry for the link error, the second one is <a href="http://www.spaff.com/sr/92photos/tito_joanna_worky.jpg" rel="nofollow">here</a>.</p>
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		<title>By: chanson</title>
		<link>http://bycommonconsent.com/2010/03/08/our-voices-our-visions-a-mormon-womens-literary-tour/#comment-178689</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[chanson]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Mar 2010 18:28:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;blockquote&gt;I first encountered Joanna Brooks during freshman orientation week at BYU in 1989–she was sitting on a table in the checkerboard quad recruiting for the Student Review, swinging her feet and looking like a pixie with her freckles and short, dark hair. &lt;/blockquote&gt;

I knew her from the &lt;i&gt;Student Review&lt;/i&gt; too!

Remember &lt;a href=&quot;http://lfab-uvm.blogspot.com/2008/03/born-in-resort-my-real-life-byu.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;this post&lt;/i&gt; I linked to from Norbert&#039;s recent BYU post?  Well, Professor Brooks is in the second picture, standing behind me on the other side of the bar.  (I hope there&#039;s no problem posting this link, but) &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.spaff.com/sr/92photos/tito_joanna_worky.jpg&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;here&lt;/a&gt;&#039;s an even better picture of her from the same party.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>I first encountered Joanna Brooks during freshman orientation week at BYU in 1989–she was sitting on a table in the checkerboard quad recruiting for the Student Review, swinging her feet and looking like a pixie with her freckles and short, dark hair. </p></blockquote>
<p>I knew her from the <i>Student Review</i> too!</p>
<p>Remember <a href="http://lfab-uvm.blogspot.com/2008/03/born-in-resort-my-real-life-byu.html" rel="nofollow">this post I linked to from Norbert&#8217;s recent BYU post?  Well, Professor Brooks is in the second picture, standing behind me on the other side of the bar.  (I hope there&#8217;s no problem posting this link, but) </a><a href="http://www.spaff.com/sr/92photos/tito_joanna_worky.jpg" rel="nofollow">here</a>&#8216;s an even better picture of her from the same party.</p>
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		<title>By: John C.</title>
		<link>http://bycommonconsent.com/2010/03/08/our-voices-our-visions-a-mormon-womens-literary-tour/#comment-178652</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[John C.]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Mar 2010 14:24:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I just want to point out that, while I am not actually an ESL writer, I always seem to do a good impression of one unintentionally.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just want to point out that, while I am not actually an ESL writer, I always seem to do a good impression of one unintentionally.</p>
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		<title>By: John C.</title>
		<link>http://bycommonconsent.com/2010/03/08/our-voices-our-visions-a-mormon-womens-literary-tour/#comment-178650</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[John C.]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Mar 2010 14:18:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Some speakers could sew a scarlet &quot;X&quot; onto their blouses.  Others could a scarlet &quot;CoC.&quot;  Any FLDS participants would, of course, be immediately recognizable.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Some speakers could sew a scarlet &#8220;X&#8221; onto their blouses.  Others could a scarlet &#8220;CoC.&#8221;  Any FLDS participants would, of course, be immediately recognizable.</p>
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		<title>By: Kathryn Soper</title>
		<link>http://bycommonconsent.com/2010/03/08/our-voices-our-visions-a-mormon-womens-literary-tour/#comment-178646</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Kathryn Soper]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Mar 2010 13:56:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[m&amp;m, what sort of deliberate instructional effort do you think would be appropriate to include in this event, given its purpose?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>m&amp;m, what sort of deliberate instructional effort do you think would be appropriate to include in this event, given its purpose?</p>
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		<title>By: m&#38;m</title>
		<link>http://bycommonconsent.com/2010/03/08/our-voices-our-visions-a-mormon-womens-literary-tour/#comment-178627</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[m&#38;m]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Mar 2010 07:59:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Interesting to read more about this. 

One question I have about potential challenges of the approach of &#039;diversity, not orthodoxy&#039; is this: Isn&#039;t it possible that this effort could contribute to continued confusion &#039;out there&#039; about what it means to be Mormon, and, more specifically, a Mormon woman? I do understand the interest in bridging gaps between mainstream, active LDS and others who share common Mormon roots, and think there is value in that (it&#039;s sort of the age-old tension discussed with Sunstone, etc. and I don&#039;t mean to rehash that here). But I also am interested to know if there will be any deliberate effort to also help people understand some of the differences, too, between the faiths that have common roots in early Mormonism. I think there is value in both recognizing the commonalities, but also recognizing and discussing in clear ways where the different religious beliefs diverge. 

Thoughts?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting to read more about this. </p>
<p>One question I have about potential challenges of the approach of &#8216;diversity, not orthodoxy&#8217; is this: Isn&#8217;t it possible that this effort could contribute to continued confusion &#8216;out there&#8217; about what it means to be Mormon, and, more specifically, a Mormon woman? I do understand the interest in bridging gaps between mainstream, active LDS and others who share common Mormon roots, and think there is value in that (it&#8217;s sort of the age-old tension discussed with Sunstone, etc. and I don&#8217;t mean to rehash that here). But I also am interested to know if there will be any deliberate effort to also help people understand some of the differences, too, between the faiths that have common roots in early Mormonism. I think there is value in both recognizing the commonalities, but also recognizing and discussing in clear ways where the different religious beliefs diverge. </p>
<p>Thoughts?</p>
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		<title>By: Molly Bennion</title>
		<link>http://bycommonconsent.com/2010/03/08/our-voices-our-visions-a-mormon-womens-literary-tour/#comment-178626</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Molly Bennion]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Mar 2010 07:56:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[In writing of Merle, Lowell Bennion&#039;s wife, and his beloved ranch, Lowell&#039;s biographer, Mary Bradford said &quot;Lowell&#039;s commitment to his dream came at personal and family cost.  In 1990 Merle recalled her own part: &quot;I did a lot down here that he doesn&#039;t appreciate.  Put them up, placated the mothers, fed them--I spent hours,&quot;  She was proud of the ranch&#039;s achievement, but the memory of the loneliness still stung.  Turning to Lowell during the interview, she asked,  &quot;Why didn&#039;t we run it together, Lowell?&quot; He had no answer.&quot;  @ p. 207
Lowell Bennion has been my Mormon intellectual hero for decades.  I prefer to think of him teaching and inspiring some of today&#039;s most highly respected women intellectuals.  But even the finest bear the imprint of their times and demand of us the fairness of suspended judgment for what we didn&#039;t live and can&#039;t truly understand.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In writing of Merle, Lowell Bennion&#8217;s wife, and his beloved ranch, Lowell&#8217;s biographer, Mary Bradford said &#8220;Lowell&#8217;s commitment to his dream came at personal and family cost.  In 1990 Merle recalled her own part: &#8220;I did a lot down here that he doesn&#8217;t appreciate.  Put them up, placated the mothers, fed them&#8211;I spent hours,&#8221;  She was proud of the ranch&#8217;s achievement, but the memory of the loneliness still stung.  Turning to Lowell during the interview, she asked,  &#8220;Why didn&#8217;t we run it together, Lowell?&#8221; He had no answer.&#8221;  @ p. 207<br />
Lowell Bennion has been my Mormon intellectual hero for decades.  I prefer to think of him teaching and inspiring some of today&#8217;s most highly respected women intellectuals.  But even the finest bear the imprint of their times and demand of us the fairness of suspended judgment for what we didn&#8217;t live and can&#8217;t truly understand.</p>
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		<title>By: Rebecca England</title>
		<link>http://bycommonconsent.com/2010/03/08/our-voices-our-visions-a-mormon-womens-literary-tour/#comment-178623</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Rebecca England]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Mar 2010 06:52:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Brad, I think you&#039;re right that Eugene England (I won&#039;t speak for Lowell Bennion) was (unconsciously?) male-centric in the 1960s and somewhat in the 1970s. However, having spent many hours,  days, and weeks sifting through decades of my father&#039;s letters and writings, it&#039;s clear England consciously came to value and champion Mormon women writers, especially the last two decades of his life. He wrote and taught that the best Mormon writers were women. And to his credit, England often wrote very personally about confronting and struggling to overcome the sexism and racism of his generation and culture.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Brad, I think you&#8217;re right that Eugene England (I won&#8217;t speak for Lowell Bennion) was (unconsciously?) male-centric in the 1960s and somewhat in the 1970s. However, having spent many hours,  days, and weeks sifting through decades of my father&#8217;s letters and writings, it&#8217;s clear England consciously came to value and champion Mormon women writers, especially the last two decades of his life. He wrote and taught that the best Mormon writers were women. And to his credit, England often wrote very personally about confronting and struggling to overcome the sexism and racism of his generation and culture.</p>
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		<title>By: Chris Henrichsen</title>
		<link>http://bycommonconsent.com/2010/03/08/our-voices-our-visions-a-mormon-womens-literary-tour/#comment-178608</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Chris Henrichsen]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Mar 2010 01:41:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The tour comes to UVU on March 26th. SMPT will also be having their conference at UVU that day. Since, I am presenting at about that time, I will miss it. However, I will relish in the thought of that much progressive Mormon intellectual activity all in one corner of Orem.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The tour comes to UVU on March 26th. SMPT will also be having their conference at UVU that day. Since, I am presenting at about that time, I will miss it. However, I will relish in the thought of that much progressive Mormon intellectual activity all in one corner of Orem.</p>
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