Tonight: BCC Electioncast

Is today’s presidential election the end of The Mormon Moment, or just the beginning? I’ll be video chatting live with a few By Common Consenters right here at 10:30 Eastern tonight, discussing our favorite moments from the recent flood of mormon culture as we watch the map get painted red and blue.

Come back to this page at 10:30 and push play!

Comments

  1. We’ll be monitoring comments/questions here as well…so ask away.

  2. I think if Romney loses, which seems more likely as the night goes on, but I don’t think anyone is ready to call it, then I think the “moment” may be less intense. I don’t think people are going to forget everything they learned about Mormons, and I think connections made during this time will continue.

    On my personal blog, I have gotten to know quite a few nonmembers who came to read my “Mormon Moment Series.” I emailed several of them last week asking them if I should change the name of the series, or fold it into the “My Mormon Perspective” series with a distinction between stories (which is what the series is now) and Mormon “policy” things. All of them thought keeping them seperate was more appropriate. One said in his email:
    “No matter who wins the election, the increase in women serving missions for your church and the knowledge lots of people have about Mormons, that they didn’t have before, means people will want to know what the Mormon church and Mormon people think about issues. Since you use the handbook for your church to help us non-Mormons understand how Mormons think and act, both the robot Mormons in Utah and other Mormons that do think and have broader views that are still based on Mormon thinking and doctrine. I like reading the links to Mormon blogs that you include as links from your posts and reading Mormons who disagree among themselves. Before I started reading your series I didn’t know that there was that much variety in the ways Mormons put their beliefs into action.”

    Before anyone jumps on me for the Utah reference, I literally cut and pasted. It is one person’s view, although a large number of the emails I have gotten from non-Mormons reading the series also reflect a fascination with learning that Mormons are not told exactly how to vote politically.

    Not sure that it really answers the question, because I am not positive exactly how the “Mormon Moment” is defined by other people.

  3. I thought it was interesting how Utah is less conservative than quite a few other states.

  4. NBC just called it. The election has been made sure.

  5. Kevin Barney says:

    Well they just called it for Obama, so it’s official.

    That chat format was pretty cool. I watched (most of) it live. Will people be able to click on it and see a recording of the conversation?

  6. Amen. That is what we say at the end of a meeting, right? ;-)

  7. yeah, we missed that Julia! And yes, Kevin, it’s on YouTube and here for all to see.

  8. Meldrum the Less says:

    ABout 5 years ago Romney won a few primary elections and church leaders began to consider how to utiltize this rare opportunity to spread the LDS gospel or grow the church. Alias, McCain won the nomination and went on to lose to President Obama.

    About a year ago Romney began to win primaries and soon became the front runner. President Obama had done little if anything to fix the economy and his perceived anemic presidency seemed to be following in the footsteps of the Carter experience. Reelection seemed unlikely. With Romney looking more and more like Reagan the Mormon moment had arrived. Church leaders put into full swing a plan to perhaps double the full-time missionary force by tinkering with the age and gender parameters. The announcement in general conference would precede the win at the ballot box by a few weeks. With a Mormon in the white house, the doors to missionary work would swing open widely. God seemed to be with Romney as his momentum increased and he won the debates decisively and even an apocalyptical hurricane battered the most populous section of the country on the eve of the election calling us to repentence.

    But now we sit here wallowing in the reality that the Romney lost. The Mormon moment is over. Don’t kid yourself, it won’t be long before our evangelical bed fellows will be back to calling us a dangerous cult. People have heard quite enough about the Mormons and wish us to shut up and go back to Utah. Time to move on. I really don’t know what all those additional missionaries are going to do. We don’t have enough interest in two wards around here at this pinnacle moment to keep one pair even close to busy.

    In Western Europe less than10% of people attend church and maybe half believe in God. In America about half attend church and about 80-90% believe in God. The difference is the evangelical movement that had its roots in the 19th century but became energized as many Americans rejected the cultural changes of the 1960′s. It helped Carter, the Baptist Sunday school teacher seeking to clean up the corrrupt Nixonian dynasty and it definitely swept Reagan into the white house. But 30 years later the evangelical movement is loosing steam. This election clearly marks the acceleration of the change (slide?) of America in the direction of where western Europe is at now. These larger cultural currents are driving poor LDS retention of converts and steady loss of members and the hemorrhaging of our youth.

    It is time for change. We conservatives, having been humbled again, have an opportunity to look to the future, the real future, and stop living in the past. If we don’t we will suffer a slow death of apathy, delusions and irrelevancy.

  9. I’m just hoping I hear less about Kolob and garments and random ridiculous things we have never believed in.

  10. Meldrum, as a split-personality voter, I have watched the (IMHO) decline of the GOP with great dismay. If we are stuck with a two-party system (I faithfully fight it every time by voting 3rd party), I’d rather that we had two parties led by rational, thoughtful, reasonable people. I am not necessarily saying that the left offers much of that, either. Try not to despair too much; in 4 years the country will probably swing right again, (although if the right is still reactionary, money-worshipping and obsessed with moral enforcement then I’ll be the one despairing). I’m going to focus on the things I like about Pres. Obama and keep on fighting the fights I care about.

  11. “robot Mormons in Utah”

    Ha! What a great term! So since I’ve lived much of my life in Utah but don’t live there now, am I an ex-robot Mormon (not to be confused with a robot ex-Mormon)? And if I move back, can I have my robotic parts re-inserted? Perhaps I’ll have to settle for being a cyborg Mormon.

  12. Congratulations liberals and Democrats on your win. I will concede that I was completely wrong in thinking that Romney would prevail and be president. For me I feel tired and worn out. All my efforts to fight for conservative ideals seem to have been for not. The American landscape has changed to a degree that there is no turning back in my hoped for direction. Melissa, there isn’t going to be a right turn this or perhaps even the next generation if ever again because the demographics are now lopsided. How can I argue against the tide of history that the majority of BCC represents? That isn’t a mockery statement, although online it does seem that way. Its now the truth facing me in the face. My online presence will be a lot more sparse and all I can do is live my own life regardless of what happens outside.

    “Don’t kid yourself, it won’t be long before our evangelical bed fellows will be back to calling us a dangerous cult.” So what? They hold no more power and respect than the Mormons and as such have proven to be little barking dogs. Your next paragraph is far more of a concern and danger to the continuation of orthodox and conservative Mormonism. Its a danger that I concede cannot be fought any longer.

  13. Ziff, someday “robot mormon” will be used to describe the techno-transhuman super race they’re building in the BYU engineering school. It will be whispered under the breath, for fear that the robot mormons’ all-hearing sensors will pick up on the dissent.

  14. Ziff- I can ask Sharee if you want. I am not sure if she has thought through the process that much.

    She grew up in Texas and now lives in Idaho. She grew up as an Evangelical Christian, and talks about Robot ECs too. She found my blog when one of her Mormon coworkers (a nonRobot Mormon, her definition) tweeted the link to one of the first posts. She emailed me with a bunch of questions, some became later posts, and has enjoyed finding BCC, W&T, Main Street Plaza, and other hang outs for nonRobots. ;-)

  15. The Apocalypse has officially begun. I’m wearing all black today in mourning. It’s not because a Mormon lost but that I don’t think a Republican will ever be as close again. How wide the divide–for both the political parties and from the book with the same title from our (former?) Evangelical friends. If I was Jewish, I would rend my clothes. If I was Catholic, I would wear sackcloth and ashes. I am Mormon, so I’m going to go stuff my face with ice cream…after saying a prayer that it will nourish and strengthen my body!

  16. Meldrum the Less says:

    We just spent 2 billion dollars on this campaign and got the same gridlocked government with the same problems. Hope and change has become spend and blame. How many more times will the political fat cats and the slimmer cats sucker for this scam that drains their wallets? What a waste except for the entertainment value. My personal favorite was Uncle Joe acting like he was a guest on Laugh-In. Hardly worth 2 billion bucks though. Elections make professional sports look like a basement bargain.

    What I would like to see is the US political parties to split apart to the degree that they had to cooperate at least with some of their rivals.Then each election would force new coalitions and might lead to less extremism and perhaps more honesty. This process might take a generation to unfold. Any of our European colleagues familiar with multiparty political systems care to comment? Perhaps the republicans will lead the way if they turn inward further and grow even less influential and the democrats get cocky and split up their big tent. The many details of how this might work is beyond me.

    What worries me most is if the debt grows beyond say 20 trillion, at some point there will be not enough money to lend our government. Interest rates will shoot up and inflation will ravish rich and poor alike; all about the time my coronary disease prevents me from working two jobs to pay the bills. I don’t want to die poor in a third world kind of life style.

    But God loves his children who do die like that as much as me and lets it happen to them anyway for some wise purpose, so why not us rich, fat, corrupt Americans?

    Jett boy.
    Evangelicals hate us. So what?
    I will tell you what. The big question is not which faith or which church any more. The big question is why any faith or any church at all. When we bicker and snip at each other we both lose. Evangelicals probably number 50 to 100 million in the US depending on how you define them. That is a bit more substantial than 2 or 3 million active Mormons. These are big barking dogs that can bite us in the arse if they so choose. I prefer that we attempt to get along with them since we have some common ground and not blow them off.

  17. “My online presence will be a lot more sparse…”

    Now, Jettboy is just teasing us.

  18. I am a libertarian-leaning Republican and a practicing Mormon. I think this election proved that Republicans need to abandon the wacko religious nuts who have repulsed the majority of the country. The Republican Party needs to re-invent itself as the party of fiscal responsibility, dedicated to preserving individual liberties (Yes, gasp, that means conceding the debate of abortion and gay rights), and nurturing economic stability through a pro-business platform. We need to be a party for things instead of the party that is against things.

  19. Right with you WaMo. Here’s hoping.

  20. WaMo-
    I could certainly get behind a party fielding candidates with those general perspectives. My biggest problem in finding Republicans to vote for in Oregon is that they have to be so far to the extreme right to win a primary, that centrist Republicans don’t even run in Oregon because they can’t get the party’s support. Which leaves us without any statewide elected offices being held by Republicans.

    I sincerely hope that those discussions happen in the Republican Party and that there is a consensus about what issues they need to emphasize and which to jettison.

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