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		<title>Comment on Thanks, Gimme, Oops, Wow&#8211;A Guide for Prayer by Kaimi</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kaimi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Nov 2009 01:35:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This was the subject of a recent NYT magazine piece, which was very good.  (See http://www.nytimes.com/2009/09/20/magazine/20Prayer-t.html ).  Definitely worth reading.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This was the subject of a recent NYT magazine piece, which was very good.  (See <a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2009/09/20/magazine/20Prayer-t.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.nytimes.com/2009/09/20/magazine/20Prayer-t.html</a> ).  Definitely worth reading.</p>
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		<title>Comment on 2009 Christmas gift book guide by Robin Jensen</title>
		<link>http://bycommonconsent.com/2009/11/20/2009-christmas-gift-book-guide/#comment-167138</link>
		<dc:creator>Robin Jensen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Nov 2009 01:17:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nice list J. I couldn&#039;t recommend Skousen&#039;s book enough. It&#039;s the culmination of three decades worth of work and at $35 cover price (from a university press!), it&#039;s a steal.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nice list J. I couldn&#8217;t recommend Skousen&#8217;s book enough. It&#8217;s the culmination of three decades worth of work and at $35 cover price (from a university press!), it&#8217;s a steal.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Thanks, Gimme, Oops, Wow&#8211;A Guide for Prayer by c.biden</title>
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		<dc:creator>c.biden</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Nov 2009 01:00:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Day and night they never stop saying:

“Holy, holy, holy

is the Lord God Almighty,

who was, and is, and is to come.”
__Revelation 4:6-9</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Day and night they never stop saying:</p>
<p>“Holy, holy, holy</p>
<p>is the Lord God Almighty,</p>
<p>who was, and is, and is to come.”<br />
__Revelation 4:6-9</p>
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		<title>Comment on Teaching OD-2 by Antonio Parr</title>
		<link>http://bycommonconsent.com/2009/11/19/teaching-od-2/#comment-167136</link>
		<dc:creator>Antonio Parr</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Nov 2009 00:55:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>. . . especially if the reason for the ban was that we were simply wrong on this one.

(Sorry for the poor editing.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>. . . especially if the reason for the ban was that we were simply wrong on this one.</p>
<p>(Sorry for the poor editing.)</p>
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		<title>Comment on Teaching OD-2 by Antonio Parr</title>
		<link>http://bycommonconsent.com/2009/11/19/teaching-od-2/#comment-167134</link>
		<dc:creator>Antonio Parr</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Nov 2009 00:54:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>87. Pedro -- we need to care about the reason for the ban, especially if the reason that we were simply wrong on this one.  In such an instance, the healing can begin for the many brothers and sisters of African descent who still feel slighted by the Latter-Day Saint priesthood ban.  Easier for us white folks to say &quot;move on&quot; when we weren&#039;t the ones excluded.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>87. Pedro &#8212; we need to care about the reason for the ban, especially if the reason that we were simply wrong on this one.  In such an instance, the healing can begin for the many brothers and sisters of African descent who still feel slighted by the Latter-Day Saint priesthood ban.  Easier for us white folks to say &#8220;move on&#8221; when we weren&#8217;t the ones excluded.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Thanks, Gimme, Oops, Wow&#8211;A Guide for Prayer by Antonio Parr</title>
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		<dc:creator>Antonio Parr</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Nov 2009 00:52:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>4.  Britt:  

Although gratitude can be praise, praise is an even better form of praise.  In fact, praise can be a form of gratitude . . .

Perhaps we should have both in our prayers.

Praise ye the Lord.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>4.  Britt:  </p>
<p>Although gratitude can be praise, praise is an even better form of praise.  In fact, praise can be a form of gratitude . . .</p>
<p>Perhaps we should have both in our prayers.</p>
<p>Praise ye the Lord.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Thanks, Gimme, Oops, Wow&#8211;A Guide for Prayer by Steve Evans</title>
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		<dc:creator>Steve Evans</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Nov 2009 00:43:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I hadn&#039;t really considered before the notion of astonishment for God&#039;s works -- at least not in terms of expressing this to God in prayer.  But I like it, a lot.  Thanks Kristine.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I hadn&#8217;t really considered before the notion of astonishment for God&#8217;s works &#8212; at least not in terms of expressing this to God in prayer.  But I like it, a lot.  Thanks Kristine.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Thanks, Gimme, Oops, Wow&#8211;A Guide for Prayer by Kristine</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kristine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Nov 2009 00:21:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Geoff, I agree that that is what happens in practice.  My question is whether it might be good to focus more on the kind of praise that is not tied to gratitude.  For instance, my son once said in a prayer &quot;Dinosaurs are really cool, Heavenly Father.&quot;  Not so much in a &quot;thanks for making dinosaurs for my enjoyment,&quot; kind of way, but more just &quot;nice job with the dinosaurs.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Geoff, I agree that that is what happens in practice.  My question is whether it might be good to focus more on the kind of praise that is not tied to gratitude.  For instance, my son once said in a prayer &#8220;Dinosaurs are really cool, Heavenly Father.&#8221;  Not so much in a &#8220;thanks for making dinosaurs for my enjoyment,&#8221; kind of way, but more just &#8220;nice job with the dinosaurs.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>Comment on Teaching OD-2 by Jon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Nov 2009 00:16:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I touched briefly on the priesthood ban in my mission prep class that I teach.  I showed an excerpt of Nobody Knows where Darius talks about his conversion.  The lesson was on faith and conversion and I thought Darius&#039;s testimony was a perfect fit for the lesson.  It didn&#039;t spark as much discussion as I hoped it would.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I touched briefly on the priesthood ban in my mission prep class that I teach.  I showed an excerpt of Nobody Knows where Darius talks about his conversion.  The lesson was on faith and conversion and I thought Darius&#8217;s testimony was a perfect fit for the lesson.  It didn&#8217;t spark as much discussion as I hoped it would.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Teaching OD-2 by Pedro Olavarria</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pedro Olavarria</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Nov 2009 00:05:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What&#039;s needed in issues like these is less speculation and more revelation. I for one don&#039;t care why the ban existed, I only know that it did and that now it doesn&#039;t.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What&#8217;s needed in issues like these is less speculation and more revelation. I for one don&#8217;t care why the ban existed, I only know that it did and that now it doesn&#8217;t.</p>
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