Soliciting Letters to the Editor(s)

Why do you blog?  What are you getting out of blogging?  What would you like to get out of blogging?  What interests you about BCC?  What ticks you off about BCC?  What features would you like to see?  What is your favorite blog?  Why?  Here’s your chance to sound off and tell your humble (or not) perma-bloggers exactly what you think.  Lurking a lot?  Here’s your chance to chime in.


  1. You see, around here we’re all about pleasing the reader.

  2. I read blogs because I am bored at work sometimes. Well, that and issues are discussed in more depth and with a candor that I don’t find in EQ/SS. I find much of what is discussed there to be either pablum or nuttiness. I appreciate a diversity of viewpoints, especially when they can be backed up with something.

    I like BCC because the traffic isn’t so great as to make contributing to a conversation difficult. Also I think that the best topics show up here first, only to be poached a day later.

    My favority blog is the Nauvoo Neighbor (formerly the Morman Wasp) because it is informative in a way that other blogs aren’t. Still, I would like Justin to express an opinion.

    Perma-bloggers? Yeah right. I looked over the list to refresh my memory. I don’t think I’ve ever seen a post from most of them, and in the last few months the percentage has shifted even more towards Steve. I will go even further: I don’t think I’ve seen a comment from most of them.

  3. Morman Wasp

    I can’t even get the nickname of the church right. I give up.

  4. I read BCC out of boredom. Quality needs to improve though–a lot of what I read is neither truthful nor useful. I like the intern, Kristine and Karen. Steve is funny, but makes too many “in” jokes.

    T&S was an excellent blog, but is now generally insipid. Not saying I could do better, but I think they can.

    You guys should get a resident red neck on your blog.

  5. I think it’s sad but true what a random john says about traffic. I find myself reading everything at M* and BCC, but not nearly everything at This Account Has Been Suspended. Although BCC has had more comments in the last couple weeks with some hot topics, it’s generally more feasible.

    I wonder what that means for the future of the bloggernacle. As a long time lurker, I’ve noticed a considerable spike in comments everywhere in the last few months. I wonder what will happen should it continue to grow at the same speed, and if BCC is headed for the likes of This Account Has Been Suspended.

  6. There is a way to still have conversational blogging with massive comments, but I am not suggesting it here since there isn’t much of a need for it at this point. :)

  7. I have no interest in blogs in general outside of Mormon themed blogs. I like the bloggernaccle (or those parts of it that are still accessible to me) for the same reason I like jujubes. I’d say more, but it would probably just get edited.

  8. I love reading in the Bloggernacle for the same reasons as ARJ. The discussions here seem much, much more sincere than in SS/EQ, and more willing to fully discuss the issue. Plus, I like to make fun of our culture.

    Favorite blog in the ‘nacle? BCC. At least for Gospel stuff. Though I’d also have to agree with ARJ that I don’t ever see anything from half the permabloggers on that list. The great thing about BCC is that I always feel like someone will read my comments rather than read over them. Other than that, T&S is great, but things seem to move a little too fast over there. M-Star is nice as well as I imagine everyone over there being so incredibly nice, how can you not like them. The Mormon Archipelago blogs are fantastic as well. Plus FHM and a bunch of others. Too many ideas, too little time.

    As far as other blogs? Waiter Rant is always an entertaining read. A great Brooklyn real estate blog is Brownstoner. Great design blogs are Panopticist, Speak Up, and Design Observer.

  9. I had to grin when I read Eric Russell’s new “This Account Has Been Suspended” moniker for T&S. Lately I have also seen that site too much. T&S badly needs to get a new host.

    One thing I’d like to see more of in the bloggernacle is a scriptural approach or scriptural projects. Perhaps a particular verse could be cited and the commenter could assist in providing definitions/discussions for all the words in the verse, commentary on the verse itself, general authority quotes, scholarly quotes, etc. There is a lot of ‘Nacle brainpower and talent that could be turned to this kind of purpose and I’m sure very interesting discussions could result as well.

  10. So do think we need more perma-bloggers to make up for those of us who go through periodic slumps?

    Dan–do you want to email me some ideas re: the scripture theme?

    iggy, neither truthful nor useful? Not useful I totally accept. I couldn’t say it better myself! :o) Not truthful? I’m curious about that.

  11. Blogs fulfill a role that more formal publications can’t – the spontaneous give and take. I enjoy other peoples’ perspectives, even when they tick me off, and find it’s a great way to learn new things.

    I think blogs are in danger and are already showing signs of heading the same way that most webpages head: they cater to people who think alike. Therefore, instead of having an open discussion where all ideas are welcome, we get each group in their own corner. Although I think this mentality existed before, I think founding Millennial Star sealed the fate; now conservatives can go to one place and sound off, largely agreeing with each other and arguing against those that disagree with them without actually having to confront them. Although BCC leans to the left, I’m always grateful people like John Fowles still blog here and offer their thoughts, and I hope BCC doesn’t become the Millennial Star of the left.

  12. One more thing … I don’t think that LDS blogs have really exploited the capability to utilize visual content. It would be nice to see some LDS sponsors of photoblogs or occasional artwork. Sometimes at T&S I post links to this blog:

    I do that because the pictures are beautiful (Friday Bird Blogging being my favorite feature) but also because I’m hoping it will give people an idea for what is possible.

    We have some great coders and some wonderful blog features — but why do LDS blogs have such serious problems with color schemes? Speaking to the bloggernacle “collectively and not individually” (D&C 1:30), your color schemes leave much to be desired.

  13. Karen,

    You are forcing me to bring up a topic that I didn’t want to bring up! Maybe perma-bloggers and guest bloggers is the wrong way to think of it. Look at and who articles are selected there. Any user is free to submit an article and it can get promoted to the front page. Similarly /. journal discussions, which any user can start, provide a way for everyone to participate without making users wade through everyone else’s posts.

    The systems I mention above have created self-sustaining communities. Nobody needs to be selected as a perma-blogger in these models.

    I think that the idea of perma-bloggers is a difficult one. The level of interest of any one person is likely to wax and wane over time, especially if they know others will pick up the slack. It also brings up the question of when do you get rid of someone? If you haven’t posted for four months, are you really a perma-blogger? Will it offend you if Steve were to remove you from the list? Would you make up some crappy post once a month to stay on the list?

  14. rJ, there’s a big difference between /. and conventional blogs, IMHO. I think we’re aiming for a more narrow community and a consistent voice. That’s why permabloggers are a good concept; we all know each others’ work and are comfortable.

    That said, most need to post more… or do I need to post less?

  15. Justin B. is king. I think the biggest weekness in the nacle is our general laziness. I know that I don’t spend nearly enough time researching my posts. The consequence is that they are, more often than not, shallow.

    I think that there is a huge amount of potential in the nacle, but all the easy posts have been written. All the ideas that are well developed have been posted. I believe that this is why new permabloggers are the most prolific – they have a body of readily accesible fresh perspective. After a while those too will be spent. Those that have been posting for a while are required to actually think and spend time developing their ideas/researching.

  16. I blog because I like to encourage others. You would have to see my blog to relate to what I mean, but unlike some blogs that people seem to just rant, complain, etc., mine is used for encouragement, support and has a positive theme to it.
    I read blogs when I have time to surf, but the minute I see that a blog has a lot of cursing, complaining, etc., I just move on to the ones that have some positive and good content.

  17. Daniel the Burnt Sienna says:

    I’d like to offer a tips to the perma-bloggers on BCC:
    The more issue-oriented your postings are, the more interesting they will be to those of us who visit the blog. Frankly, many of us really don’t care about your travels or your children or your dull classes at BYU. I’m sorry if that sounds harsh, and admittedly I may be wrong, but perhaps the numbers of comments on the postings here supports my view.
    If you want lively discussion and an interested readership, talk about issues and relieve yourselves of the illusion that we are interested in reading your diary.


  18. “I hope BCC doesn’t become the Millennial Star of the left.”
    How ironic. Here I thought M* was the BCC of the “right.”

  19. Burnt Sienna, I can honestly say that we’re not interested in attracting your readership.

  20. Steve,

    Here I go again. /. itself is a bad example since the mainpage isn’t really a blog so much as a news aggregator. Other sites that use slashcode have used it differently though. K5 is a much better example of what I mean. You could certainly adapt that model to have a consistent voice. Right now any consistency here is due to the fact that Steve tends to write in Steve’s voice.

    Maybe having terms for “perma” bloggers would be a good idea. Say, three to six months. I just don’t see a good way of handling the delicate situation of kicking someone off the list.

    On the question of “Should Steve write less?” the answer depends on the other bloggers. If they write more then you could write less if you wanted to. If they continue in their ways, then you hadn’t better let off or the blog might schrivel up and die.

  21. I understand what Daniel is saying, but I find that personal essays, when well done, are actually far more interesting than the standard article. I agree that journal entries are not so interesting, but reflective journal entries are about as interesting as you can get.

  22. Note: I’ve gone through and deleted the whole threadjacking segway. Karen’s post was a good idea, and responding to it are what comments are for. Sorry to those whose thoughts were deleted. I haven’t done that before, and didn’t enjoy it.

  23. Very classy, Steve. Leave up the attacking comment and delete all the rebuttals. Amazing that the discussion suddenly became a threadjack somewhere after John’s opinions on Millennial Star’s founding, but before my response to him.

  24. To answer a question that was never asked, I enjoyed the Fear and Loathing post. I think the problem is just when such becomes the norm (which I don’t think BCC is in danger of anyways).

  25. Ryan, lest you think your ranting be in vain, Ben S.’ classier response has also been left up.

  26. like to pipe up here! Thanks for asking these questions, Karen!

    1. Why do I blog?

    a. I have a boring, unchallenging job
    b. I’m a lawyer, and so I think everyone should listen to my opinion (see also answer a)
    c. It’s fun!

    2. What are you getting out of blogging?
    a. Lots of practice writing grammatically correct sentences and organizing logical thought patterns (some days are clearly better than others).
    b. A sense that I’m not the only person in the LDS Church who has questions.
    c. The opportunity to explore these questions with people who acknowledge that the Church is an imperfect institution, but aren’t quite ready to post on The View from the Foyer or Recovery from Mormonism.

    3. What would you like to get out of blogging?

    a. A deeper understanding of why I believe the way I do, as I respond to challenges to those few people who intelligently disagree with my opinions (gospel related and non-gospel related).

    b. For Steve Evans to finally respond directly to one of my posts, and thus to feel officially integrated and welcomed into the blogging community.

    c. For everyone who reads each one of my posts to think that I’m brilliant, and wonder why I’m not a permanent contributor to The New Yorker.

    4. What ticks you off about BCC?

    Nothing much. Sometimes the inside jokes. And also when no one posts anything for awhile. Or ignores my brilliant comments altogether. Particularly the ones about a little known corollary to Godwin’s law.

    5. What features would you like to see?

    a. More pictures. I like pictures.
    b. More interesting posts about stuff I care about (insert cheesy smiley face here).
    c. Honestly, I think the features are good. I like the side blogs. Maybe more guest bloggers?

    6. What is your favorite blog? And why?

    Depends on my mood, but lately I’ve really enjoyed reading And there is an excellent new site out there called LDS Liberation Front. Roasted Tomatoes rocks!
    I like these sites, because they’re sincere. Sometimes the Bloggernacle is way too self-righteous and arrogant. Must be all the lawyers out there. Or it could be all the Mormons. Either way, the self righteousness and arrogance can be pretty annoying. We all love each other, right? (rhetorical question).

    Anyway, a shout out to all those of you out there who created and maintain the Bloggernacle – thanks, everyone! I wish more of you were in my Ward (besides a random John, who, despite his Slashcode fetish, is one cool dude).

  27. Tess, where’s your blog? Maybe if you put the URL in with your comments I and others would visit more.

  28. I don’t have a blog! I meant respond to my comments on THIS blog. Or do I need to get my own blog? Then will you respond to my comments?

  29. Hey Tess, I’m responding to you now. Don’t know what you’re complaining about… :)

  30. I guess I won’t feel like a REAL member of the blogging community until you tell me to check my email, or until you flippantly respond to one of my comments with one of your pithy, dismissive posts (wait, I think that last one counts).

  31. Dooce has one of the most innane blogs out there–proof you don’t have to be good to have a massive readership. She thinks she is edgy when she says SHOCKING THINGS about SEX in front of her MORMON FAMILY–but of course it isn’t shocking and, even worse, not funny. She freely admits she was uptight and judgmental when she was in high school but somehow fails to realize that she is still uptight and judgmental–only her orthodoxy has changed. Or at least all of this was true the last time I dropped in at Dooce–have things improved?

  32. Iggy – since you asked, I like dooce because Heather is blisteringly honest about herself. She’s a little screwed up, and sometimes uses offensive words, but her posts about her daughter, Leta, are some of the most moving and meaningful I’ve ever read. Check out her monthly newsletters to Leta as she has grown up over this past year – they are beautiful.

    Heather’s got a good heart, but I can see how some people wouldn’t like her stuff (Heather’s not Leta’s), and are probably judging me now because I just said I like her stuff. Oh well!

  33. OK, OK — now I see how bad in-jokes really are. I promise to do better.

  34. Inside jokes are fine sometimes, but they just make people on the outside feel left out because they can’t join in the fun. (sad smiley face)

    I like this blog – you people do a great job. Even that weird intern you had over here for awhile.

  35. john fowles says:

    Karen, I like BCC a lot and even though I don’t agree with a lot of the conclusions drawn by some that participate here, I have always felt welcomed and engaged here. The dialogue is open and frank.

    I would certainly like to read more from the other permabloggers as well.

  36. john fowles says:

    well, almost always, that is.

  37. HL Rogers says:

    Hey don’t knock the intern. He’s still here. Maybe if I had more rage people would notice me more–like Ryan :)

  38. John H: …instead of having an open discussion where all ideas are welcome, we get each group in their own corner. Although I think this mentality existed before, I think founding Millennial Star sealed the fate; now conservatives can go to one place and sound off, largely agreeing with each other and arguing against those that disagree with them without actually having to confront them. Although BCC leans to the left…

    I find this judgment to be a bit severe (as I typically find such judgments—since I find that they’re usually offered by liberals bemoaning the opening of conservative outlets). I read and post both here and at Millennial Star, and (by my count) a great many others do, too.

  39. I notice you HL, and I like the rage you already have (being, as it is, directed against Canadians and Flemish).

  40. You ought to give John Fowles a permablogging spot. He is, after all, your link to newspaper-story fame and glory. Besides, with Fowles and Evans on BCC, it would become sort of like a bloggernacle version of “Crossfire.”

  41. AT — agreed. But like I said before (before the threadjack got deleted), this ain’t about Millennial Star.

  42. Also, I think that you ought to do a series on whether there are limericks present in the Book of Mormon. And if those limericks are present, what do they prove? Divine origin, that’s what!

    Perhaps a discussion of haiku as well.

  43. Tess,

    I don’t care if Heather B. Armstrong swears or not–and the only judgment I’ve passed on you for reading her is a judgment on your taste.

    Heather B. Armstrong’s problem is that she writes as if being honest about her bowel movements or motherly angst is novel. It’s not, and worse, she doesn’t do a good job of it. She thinks if she wraps her constipation issues in a new ALL CAPS PACKAGE every week or so it won’t stink like the recycled crap it is.

    But Heather B. Armstrong’s biggest problem isn’t her pedestrian ramblings, it is her self-righteous attitude. She never misses a chance to tell her readers how she used to be so hard on people, but she’s ALL GOOD now. Her blog would read so much better if she would drop the passive-agressive posture and be either OVERTLY HOSTILE OR JUST MOVE ON–only this time for real.

    For all I know she does have a good heart, just not a good blog.

  44. “Heather B. Armstrong’s problem is that she writes as if being honest about her bowel movements or motherly angst is novel.”

    Of course, Iggy! NONE of this stuff is novel. None of Heather’s stuff, none of the stuff here on BCC, T&S, FMH, whatever. The important thing is that we’re all expressing ourselves each in our own special way to everyone who reads these comments about the incredibly mundane, every day stuff that matters to us.

    I love that. But I also love Seinfeld – the show about nothing.

    And I agree, self righteousness can be a big problem with bloggers. But if we didn’t care so much about our opinions and think we were right about them, we wouldn’t have that much motivation for blogging in the first place.

  45. Sorry Steve, I missed the entire threadjack, so I didn’t realize I was covering old territory.

  46. Aaron Brown says:

    Point taken about how the “other” permabloggers don’t blog enough. I’ve been telling Steve for at least a month that I’d jump back on the wagon, yet BCC still has nothing to show for it. I promise that it will shortly.

    Of course, maybe everyone is missing all the other silent permabloggers except for me. And my participation may only send our blog quality into a deep abyss. :)

    By the way, here’s one reader/blogger who really wishes he could have read that “threadjack,” and who feels personally violated by Steve’s tyrannical, censorial ways.

    Aaron B

  47. AB, I am catching flak on all sides for that deletion. O, the curse of admin!

    I also wish there were more permabloggin’ going on around here at times, but frankly, I like almost everything that gets posted: Kristine, Kris W., Bob, Ronan — all the latest stuff has been excellent IMHO.

    I think we should do more regular features.

  48. Daniel the Burnt Sienna says:

    How about a suggestion box for topics? That way, we won’t have to read about topics like what a test of faith your child’s gluten intolerance has become, or who has the best salmon/arugula salad in the Twin Cities area, or all the drama in your ward now that there’s been a shuffling of the EQ presidency.
    Writing an entry about yourself and your lack of entrepreneurialism, or your sauntering through miscellaneous cities, ugh! Keep it to your own blog!
    I think if you’re starved for subject matter, which has been the case here since the Conference posting, you should put out a suggestion box.

    Just a thought.

  49. HL Rogers says:

    Once again the intern gets shafted

  50. HL Rogers says:

    (referring to Steve #47)

  51. Bob Caswell says:

    For what’s it worth, Aaron B., I’ve missed your posts, as I think they’ve always been one of the highlights here. I imagine most of the readership doesn’t know you anymore. Or if they do based on your last few comments of “someday I’ll come back” both here and at T&S, then they probably think you’re not nearly as cool as you really are!

  52. Daniel: “Writing an entry about yourself and your lack of entrepreneurialism, or your sauntering through miscellaneous cities, ugh! Keep it to your own blog!”

    Daniel, this IS our own blog. Your preferences have been noted, of course.

    HL – you’re picking up on the subtle clues! J/K — I’ve enjoyed your posts. Not bad, for a beginner.

  53. Bob Caswell says:

    “Writing an entry about yourself and your lack of entrepreneurialism…”

    Um, did you read my post? There was very little about myself (perhaps the first couple sentences to set the stage). The fact that most entrepreneurs fail and potentially ruin their lives while the actual characteristics of an entrepreneur are great IS, in fact, an issue, not a personal dairy.

  54. Bob, ixnay on eed-faying the oll-tray.

  55. As long as we’re registering complaints, what bugs me most about Steve Evans are his propensities to label people as trolls and to edit or delete content. Just a funny aside: as a general rule, I’ve found that in the bloggernacle, the admins who are most aggressive in editing or deleting content are the more liberal ones. (Perhaps this is related to the topic of my earlier aside about how liberals often bemoan the opening of more diverse outlets for opinion; at any rate, it’s this kind of behavior that makes theological liberals look like another vast herd of independent thinkers.)

  56. I heart BCC.

    Really, the only thing that would make it better is to focus more on women’s issues, oh yeah and a pink color palate.

    Okay, seriously.

    1. I blog because I found a community here that I enjoy and an outlet for so many of the conversations I wanted to have. I was annoying people. They were like, could we just talk about our kids and our diets and other normal stuff already. My husbands would try so hard to act interested, my friends would change the subject. Blogging is like a repository for my mind vomit.

    2. I get mental excercise out of blogging. Maybe it’s only excercise for small brains, but my brain is small so I am satisfied.

    3. Out of blogging I’d like to get world domination. And popularity. And a big sack full of money. But really good chocolate is fine too. Dark Chocolate with a hint of pears.

    4. I like the personal and community type stuff most. Doctorine talk makes me sleepy.

    5. BCC has never ticked me off. Well except that time Steve tried to steal my favorite Kris. Poacher. I’m not always interested, but that’s no reflection on the content, only on my brain size.

    5. Features? I’d like babysitting.

    6. Favorite Blogs: Hugo because he’s so sincere and deep (for me) and stuff. And I like Dooce too! She is pretty harsh, but she’s funny as hell about it. Certainly you can make the claim that she’s not as enlightened as she’d like to think. But it’s just silly (and probably jealousy) to claim she’s a bad writer. (She’s terrible and that why thousands of people keep coming back for more)

    And I’m loving the Mormon Mommy Wars. I laugh every time. And Dave’s Mormon Inquiry, because he knows everything and I worship Dave. And Celibate in the City, because JL writes so well when she’s not unhinged. And Nauvoo Neighbor, because Justin is a smarty pants. And Our Thoughts because Kim and Mary are my favorite people. And T&S (mostly the Kristine and Julie and Rosalynd and Kaimi and Russell) because even though I can’t keep up they do a lot of good stuff. And finally I think Lizzy’s Life is very underrated.


  57. Arturo,
    You’re on drugs, you troll.

  58. Oh, and in jokes stink. Except the ones about chocolate with pears.

  59. LOL, Lisa. But you can forget it — that was all the chocolate we had.

  60. Lisa wrote: “My husbands [note the plural] would try so hard to act interested”

    So, Lisa, instituting polyandry, are we? Is that what FMH is really all about? ;)

    I like BCC. It’s one of my favorites. My other favs: Feminist Mormon Housewives, Splendid Sun, Various Stages of Mormonism, Dave’s Mormon Inquiry, Destination: Samarqand. FMH discusses issues I’m interested in. It seems to me that Jonathan and Stephen at Splendid Sun think things through thoroughly (how d’ya like that alliterative phrase) and welcome productive discussion. The VSoM crew are funny and interesting and I really like their approach of picking a weekly topic. I like the blogs where I feel welcome and I find the posts interesting and I’ve come to know the blogger(s) to some degree.

    I mostly just want to say keep on truckin’. And I agree it would be nice to hear from the other permabloggers more often. Oh, and regular features could be nice. (Do you have any already?)

    Well, that and I wanted to poke fun at Lisa’s honest mistake. It was just a typo, wasn’t it? Or is there something you’ve been meaning to tell us? (And people aren’t going to hate me for making an inside joke, are they? There’s nothing really “inside” about this . . .)

  61. Heather P., I observed the the same anomoly in Lisa’s post. I wasn’t sure if she had been married before, but the thought of polyandry did cross my mind. I knew they like Joseph’s Nauvoo teachings…I just didn’t think they liked them that much.

  62. Lisa: Arturo, You’re on drugs, you troll.

    LOL. You must number yourself among the liberal herd. Even so, Lisa, I have many flaws; the propensity to make recreational choices that run afoul the Word of Wisdom isn’t one of them.

  63. I don’t like the thought of using it myself, but Steve’s strategy of keeping his blogs alive by constantly inviting new people on as perma-bloggers is actually pretty effective. The perma-bloggers here aren’t prominently featured by name anywhere on the front page — you’ve got to go digging around a little bit to find them. Consequently, we don’t care quite as much who the permabloggers are, just so long as new content gets posted. Sure, it gets a bit unwieldy at times, but overall, the flow of content keeps coming.

    The color scheme here is pretty bad. It’s only been the past couple of weeks that I’ve noticed, but it’s really starting to bug me.

    The sideblog is nice. Look for M* to poach this idea soon (the astute reader will point out that BCC poached this from T&S).

    For those complaining about in-jokes — just make your own. When I was in high school, some friends and I had our own anti-in-joke that we used any time we found ourselves in a conversation where we were on the outside of whatever in-joke was in play in a conversation — we would look at each other significantly and say, “Microwave!” and laugh uproariously. Completely obnoxious and satisfying.

  64. Bryce, the color scheme is getting old. I think we may retool the ol’ blog one of these days. Something in a bright blue, perhaps?

    The sideblog is born out of necessity — we wanted to have a place to post up articles, etc. that were interesting, but where we didn’t want to use a full-blown post. Ours isn’t very functional, but it works.

  65. My biggest gripe is that I can’t even beat Angry Mormon out in getting a link from BCC.

    Though I’ve found that interesting reading.

  66. I just finished reading a handful of posts at Dooce and now I feel nauseous. One thing I like about BCC is that at least here I can read opinions I disagree with without wanting to throw up.

    I also like BCC’s picture at the top. I don’t know why it’s funny – I don’t know if it’s supposed to be funny – but it always makes me laugh for some reason.

  67. Eric, that’s a picture lifted right out of the Ensign that we colored up. It’s funny, as the saying goes, because it’s true.

  68. Ditto on Dooce in #’s 31, 43, & 66. I like T & S, BCC, and M*, which I read most regularly–though I feel more comfortable commenting either at BCC or M* (I just don’t have as much grey matter firepower as most of the T&S crowd I suppose). I enjoy the variety of posts/comments at all three of these blogs–but get turned off by personal attacks or criticisims when they appear. If you run the blog–you certainly have an absolute right to delete comments or edit as you please. Most blogs (with more than one blogger) probably have the same issues on certain bloggers who post more than others–don’t know if that’s good, bad, or what. I say take what you can get or set up a criteria for the perma bloggers and enforce it if not met. I do like M*’s idea of a guest post. From what I’ve read on the three blogs I regularly read, many of the commentors have thoughts as interesting as those who permananently post. The guest post idea might be a solution to more and varied posts. Just my .02.

  69. Husband(s) . .. . hum. This could work.

    I forgot these favorite bloggernacle blogs: Splendid Sun, Orson’s Telescope, Explorations, Chubby Girl Brigade, Spinozist Mormon. I thinks that is all my precious.

    Okay, maybe not drugs, but do you hang out under bridges and eat billy goats? Hummm? Answer that one. I dare you.

    Actually, I’m probably (I’d be willing to bet) the most liberal Mormon blogger around. And the only comments I’ve erased were spam and one full of full-out sexist vulgarity. Sexist, I leave, Vulgarity, I leave, the combo was too much for me. And even then I hesistated, it hurt me to erase it.

    I say try this, pick three left mo blogs, three right mo blogs, go out and try to be offensive, random, and vulgar. See who erases you the most, then return and report.

  70. Lisa, offensive, vulgar, sure. I’d be happy to concede that conservative blogs might delete those more readily– and I say more power to them. As for deleting things just because you disagree, it’s not something I’ve seen much of in the bloggernacle at all, except for in this thread.

  71. Come on, Ryan. Sheesh.

  72. I read blogs because it’s nice to have real discussions where platitudes get shot down and people aren’t afraid to acknowledge that there are questions without answers. I don’t even miss SS and RS anymore. Not that I’m totally inactive or anything, I just happen to be the nursery teacher. Blissful calling.

    I made BCC my favorite after a Goldilocks elimination. T&S was toooo philosophical and erudite, and M* was toooo CESical, but BCC was just right.

    Suggestion for change: do guest posts occasionally.

  73. Lisa, specifically, what I said was, “[generally] the admins who are most aggressive in editing or deleting content are the more liberal ones.” I did not say, “All liberal admins delete content and no conservative ones do.” I believe you when you state your editing policy. I know that you’ve never edited any of my comments.

    Also, I’ve never eaten billy goats of any size, but I’m not so choosy that I wouldn’t eat one on a dare. Even so, I do not consider myself a troll. That said, I do believe that too many in the bloggernacle have weak stomachs and misplaced priorities simply because they’re bored or lead a pampered (i.e., lower middle class to upper middle class American) life, and I believe that this is a syndrome more easily cultivated in liberals than conservatives. I’m still mystified that in a world that daily bombards us with so many palpable evils, people can get in such a tissy over whether I use the word chick to refer to perfectly respectable women. I’ve posted my share of borderline comment content (rumor has it that I’m on double secret probation on this very blog). I get edited here rather often. Before I got banned outright, I was edited pretty regularly at Times and Seasons. I’ve never once been edited at Millennial Star.

  74. Well, I’ve deleted my link to bcc and changed it to Angry Mormon’s web site.

  75. I do most of my posting/commenting in the DAMU, and my own blog is mostly an online journal semi-suitable for public consumption. Perhaps someday someone will read what I wrote during my time of major depression, see themselves, and get help. But probably not. I have few readers, who are mostly friends from the DAMU. Sometimes someone will wander in who’s found my blog searching on “get rid of findjizz,” which I did successfully about a year and a half ago, and blogged.

    I limit what I read on the bloggernacle, due to both a lack of time and a desire to maintain my mental health. I read every word at DMI, but not every day, and I read FMH also top to bottom, but not every day. Every day I scan the headlines at T&S; usually I don’t stick around. Excellent writing, but the subject matter is usually uninteresting to me. I like Steve Evans’s Zeitgeist on the BTimes. I also scan the headlines here on BCC every day; I read about half of what’s written.

    Specifically about BCC: I read everything by Steve. Is John H still a permablogger? He ought to write more; like DMI, when I read John’s stuff I don’t think my head will explode. Kristine HH is my favorite writer in the entire bloggernacle. Aaron used to write good stuff; I am happy to read the promise of a new article. I heart the intern. I’m personally much more interested in mormon culture than in the doctrine; you could write more about that.

    I do notice the same people writing and commenting just about everywhere in the bloggernacle, and I wonder – are you people just really, really fast readers and writers? Do you clean your houses? Cook? Do ANYTHING at work? Now that I’m working again, and have a family to take care of, if I spend as much time reading the ‘net as I’d like, nobody would ever eat. If you’re blogging at work…well, I guess you’ve earned those law degrees; so it’s good to see them being put to good use…

  76. Eric Russell says:

    I’ll be the first to offer my unsolicited opinion, Steve. I don’t like it. It’s pale and pasty. The picture’s nice, but not as fun as the last one. The nicknames for the blogroll was fun too.

  77. Steve Evans says:

    Eric, we were going for pasty and un-fun. It’s all part of becoming a respectable institution.

  78. D. Fletcher says:

    Since Rusty is our resident designer, I would trust his word on your … renovation. But I wouldn’t put that title up there twice. It looks like an HTML mistake, to me — very little motivation for the two titles with a line between them.

  79. Bob Caswell says:

    I’m not sure why, but I feel the new layout is like a warm, cozy fire, which guests from all over are welcome to hundle around to keep warm in the dead of winter. I like it. But I agree with D.; I thought the title up twice was an HTML mistake the first time I saw it.

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