Saturday Afternoon General Conference Open Thread

Please post your comments below. Also, if you are a priesthood bearer, please put on a white shirt first if possible. ;)


  1. I just got a chill when Pres. Eyring mentioned the Internet.

  2. This song is AWESOME!

  3. as a non American, I’m flinching at the dropped ‘t’ in ‘all that I must do’!

  4. A Guy Named Eddie says:

    Everyone see the token black child they showed at the beginning?

  5. It’s hard to say the “t” when you are missing your front teeth ;-)

    Cute kids.

  6. A Guy Named Eddie says:

    Apparently D Todd Christofferson didn’t get the Black suit memo. He was wearing Gray.

  7. cute kids indeed- and all the boys wearing white shirts, as far as I could see :-)

  8. Can I also say that the prayers have been amazing thus far? I don’t normally notice them.

  9. Dude–where are Elders Perry and Oaks?

  10. #8 – Amen.

    #9 – Probably at BYU or another large gathering.

  11. A Guy Named Eddie says:

    I told my kids they could stand by the TV and join the primary choir.

  12. A Guy Named Eddie says:

    Perry and Oaks are probably seated in the Assembly Hall.

  13. Eddie, it’s neat to see my younger kids singing along with General Conference songs.

  14. The Light Divine is one of my favorites since childhood.

  15. A Guy Named Eddie says:

    Where is the podioum that he’s seated at relative to the main podium?

  16. I love that the kids can’t bring themselves to ignore the cameras. The sidelong glances and suppressed smiles are wonderful.

  17. It’s a little portable podium that is put temporarily in front of his usual chair.

  18. I really love this man. He is my oldest daughter’s favorite apostles.

  19. A Guy Named Eddie says:

    Which mic is in use here?? THe one on the podium, or the one attached to his ear?

  20. I’m glad Wirthlin is sitting for this talk. His talks are often poetic and beautiful, and it’s easier for me to listen when i’m not worried about him.

  21. There’s a mic on the portable podium. Presumably that’s the live one.

  22. His honor, his family, his dog, and his ancestors, all the way back to Adam.


  23. It’s a comedy talk!!

  24. The LDS need to learn to laugh at ourselves. Profoundly good advice.

  25. Don’t feel picked on — it happens to everyone and it’s part of life. Also good…

  26. I love this man.

    I love that the primary choir got my one year old and 5 year old to pay attention, for thirty seconds. We should have more primary choir.

  27. A less punitive approach to the law of justice: your sorrow and loss will be compensated.

  28. I just have to say that the new media player on is streaming conference in gorgeous high resolution.

  29. I guess I have to stop making fun of the true life angel stories in the women’s magazines.

    And it also answers the questions about Matt and Mandy.

  30. A Guy Named Eddie says:

    Intermediate hymn at 46 after the hour??

  31. And it also answers the questions about Matt and Mandy.

    Not really, I think. It complicates it because he brings human action into the realm of angelic ministration.

  32. I absolutely love Elder Holland. Always been my favorite. Always will be.

  33. Mortal and immortal angels. Fantastic.

  34. Some men go bald. Others are blessed with a beautiful head of hair late into their lives.

  35. My six-year-old just grabbed the hymn book and brought it to me so she could “sing with the other kids”.

  36. “He adapts to the level of the individual.” I love that.

  37. Patricia Lahtinen says:

    I don’t remember having a Primary choir in conference before. This is so sweet!

  38. A Guy Named Eddie says:

    I think that only kids in the congregation should have sung that song. No adults.

  39. Hurray! A French general authority speaking! Gerald Causse is from Paris, the Versailles ward

  40. Anyone have any info on who this is? I’m not familiar with him.

  41. We used to sing it back and forth — the kids would sing the first verse (“Teach me …”) and the adults the second (“Come little child …”) and all join in on the third.

  42. I don’t remember having a Primary choir in conference before.

    Is this a historic first?

  43. Elder Causse was recently sustained in the first quorum of the seventy.

  44. oneheartandmind says:
  45. Gerald Causse is from Paris, the Versailles ward

    Really? I was a missionary there, but unfortunately I don’t really remember him.

  46. Hey, last Sunday I went to church in the Paris ward, and I was reading the bulletin board thinking, How cool. There’s a Versailles Ward!

  47. Anyone notice how many different ways in which we are being told not to take ourselves too seriously (think Perry, Wirthlin, Causse)?

  48. #45: Yup, when did you serve? I returned a little less than two years ago.

  49. oops, #44

  50. Yup, when did you serve?

    I was in the Versailles ward in late 1997 and early 1998.

  51. The Little Prince.


  52. How neat. I was just there on vacation, though!

  53. Is this the first time Antoine de Saint-Exupery has been quoted in GC?

  54. All saving knowledge is contained in the pre-baptism lessons? Not so sure that’s true…

  55. Hmm. Maybe you knew the Babin family? They’re Elder Causse’s in-laws.

  56. #53: saving, not necessarily exalting

  57. I returned a little less than two years ago.

    Rachel, do you have any inside info on the Paris temple? We’ve been trying to get it built since 1998.

  58. Looks like all the non-Apostle (male) speakers so far are the newest members of the 1st Quorum of the 70.

    Is this normal?

  59. Three Seventies called in April 2008 have spoken so far today.

  60. This Corbridge dude talks just like an apostle. Sure, everyone tries, but this guy’s got it down.

  61. Well, I was there when the church was looking at some property west of Paris, but the public found out about it somehow and that put a stop to inquiries. As far as current information, I couldn’t say. I’ll need to contact my sources . . .

  62. Maybe you knew the Babin family?

    OK, I remember the Babins.

  63. Any other way is madness!

  64. Ok, “He forgives us! He… He…” which I’m wondering about. Does Jesus forgive our sins or does our Heavenly Father forgive our sins? Did I miss something.

    Sorry, new to all of this.

  65. I hope people weren’t so dazzled by Elder Causse’s French mystique that they didn’t notice that he gave a really outstanding, and doctrinally rich talk.

  66. “He paid the price of our education.”

    I have never heard it said that way, but I LOVE it.

  67. The current speaker looks like Henry Winkler (Fozzie from Happy Days).

  68. This Corbridge dude talks just like an apostle. Sure, everyone tries, but this guy’s got it down.

    But is he giving a talk or preaching?

  69. #63 – They each have in different situations.

  70. Is there a “Mormon Doctrine for Dummies” booklet? I sure could use one.

  71. #67 – ??

  72. Fozzie from Happy Days

    Uh, I think you mean Barry Zuckercorn from Arrested Development.

  73. Uh, I think you mean Barry Zuckercorn from Arrested Development.


  74. #69 – Just don’t use “Mormon Doctrine”. :)

  75. 70- I was referring to his opening segment…I think it was a rhetorical device, now he has settled into a “talk”.

  76. #67: there is something vaguely . . . [can’t think of the right adjective] about his talk. I was actually going to look up his history, if it’s online.

  77. Fozzie from Happy Days

    Fonzie, surely…isn’t Fozzie in The Muppet Show?!

    BTW I’m really enjoying the talks and this blog! (Can’t believe my first post was about a TV show)

  78. The higher the standard, the fewer can reach it. That is not the case here.

    Very, very good.

  79. I enjoyed his talk. I need to read it again.

    Oh, and I like Elder Christofferson’s pin striped suit. Nice change in fashion.

  80. I don’t think I’ve ever watched a session that went as fast as the last one, but this one is close. Riveting talks.

  81. Is there a “Mormon Doctrine for Dummies” booklet?

    The pre-2004 missionary discussions booklets might be good for that.

  82. Fozzie from Happy Days

    Dude, Fozzie is a muppet. You mean Fonzie, as in Arthur Fonzarelli. Sheesh.

  83. A Guy Named Eddie says:

    D Todd — Gray AND Pinstripes.

  84. Little Sister says:

    New temple in Zion, talk on building Zion…

  85. By the way, Corbridge got the “supernal” of the day award. One so far.

  86. “Nephi saw that these dominions would be small.”

    Interesting. Very, very interesting.

  87. Is this the first time Antoine de Saint-Exupery has been quoted in GC?

    I’m pretty sure I’ve heard the little prince quoted before in gc.

  88. …Oh, and I like Elder Christofferson’s pin striped suit. Nice change in fashion.

    Uh oh, he’ll pay for that. Monday news flash…

    SALT LAKE CITY- The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints today announced that Elder D. Todd Christofferson of the Quorum of the Twelve Apostles has “resigned”…

    I kid, I kid.

  89. He’s flirting with Nibleyesque rhetoric here.

  90. Little Sister says:

    Poverty discussed in GC! How exciting!

  91. Love talks on Zion. But why do we say “ZI-uhn”, and the people in the Matrix said “ZI-ahn.” Is it like an “Ore-gun” “Ore-gone” thing?

  92. Love the connction between forgiveness and unity! I’ve never thought of it so coherently.

  93. Zion – individual and economic requirements.
    Can a person really become a “Zion” person if there are poor people around them? I really like this talk.

  94. #69- I have “Mormonism for Dummies”. And I learned stuff from it, too!

  95. The Matrix is rated R.
    The Lord called his people Zi-uhn.

  96. Do people in Zion wear pin stripe suits? I kid, I kid.

  97. “Mormonism for Dummies” is quite good.

  98. The Moldovan YSA example is fabulous. Splitting up to hear everything, then sharing notes with each other and others not there.

  99. Zion will come only as they happen.


  100. He’s flirting with Nibleyesque rhetoric here.

    is that a good thing or a bad thing?

  101. “The Lord has judged his people by how they cared for the poor.”

    This is an amazing talk.

  102. #100 — a good thing.

  103. sufficient for our needs…

  104. #100 – personally, I love Nibley. He was a well-known Mormon scholar on Mormon doctrine. He also wrote great articles about Zion.

  105. “Paul warned about those who think that gain is godliness.”

  106. Re: 37 & 42 Primary choirs are a regular occurrence in conference.

    re: 58 General practise is to have seventy speak who were called during the previous conference.

  107. there goes those “i obeyed and then i made it big” testimonies. but prob. not. :(

  108. What an amazing story of the kitchen tables!

  109. Latter-day Guy says:

    Oooh, love the “table story.” Hit us where we live, Elder Christofferson!

  110. janice kapp getting the gc nod

  111. Where have we heard the story of the kitchen tables before? It’s familiar, but I can’t remember when I heard it previously.

  112. I heart the primary choir.

  113. A Guy Named Eddie says:

    My teenage son said he could sing better than the primary choir, so we muted the first verse and made him prove it. He was lying.

  114. He was lying.


  115. Eddie, that’s awesome. Did your son agree with your verdict?

  116. oo i like that creation in the morning.covey-esque, though it be.

  117. He was lying


  118. Jinx on Brad

  119. A Guy Named Eddie says:

    I told him that I posted it here. He said, “that was mean.”

  120. Here he is, “the helmet of righteousness.” His hair is more perfect than Mitt’s.

  121. Latter-day Guy says:

    Though, honestly, our primary choir might learn something about tone from King’s College or the Vienna Boys. “Strident” is not necessarily “adorable.”

  122. More than his hair, I admire his youthful skin. Nary a wrinkle

  123. I admire his youthful skin. Nary a wrinkle

    Actually, I was thinking that he appears to have aged much since last we saw him. Not that he isn’t still boyishly good looking…

  124. Wow, I really appreciated Elder Bednar’s outlining of the relationship between night and morning prayers. i had never thought of it that way. It makes the idea of keeping a prayer in your heart all the more concrete when you think of the continuum stretching from morning to evening prayer.

    P.S. Thanks for this thread–it keeps me more engaged in the talks!

  125. A Guy Named Eddie says:

    I’m predicting a very short, concise prayer at the conclusion of this session, which only offers thanks within it.

  126. “The prayers of prophets are childlike in their simplicity”

    I enjoy the tiny window into those Thursday meetings….

  127. Latter-day Guy says:

    Hmmm. I must be wicked. I have always found “thanks-only” prayers to be artificially pious. I don’t know how I’d get through a prayer without asking for forgiveness. “Thanks for the forgiveness you will undoubtedly give me, O Lord” seems somewhat manipulative; I like to offer the opportunity to be refused. Oh well, I guess I should repent.

  128. A Guy Named Eddie says:

    THe kids must have been told “Hands by your sides, not in your pockets.”

  129. #128 I still think the most relevant advice about prayer is to pray sincerely and with real intent.

  130. #122: Undoubtedly, but they are professional choirs. These amateur kids probably got three rehearsals together, tops.

  131. Has anyone heard that descant before? I don’t recognize it.

  132. Oh well, I guess I should repent.

    Okay, calm down. Elder Bednar seems to simply be carrying the logic that has been expressed throughout the conference (i.e. don’t take yourself, your intellect, your lifestyle, your problems, your needs, too seriously) into personal prayer.

  133. yeah, you must be right about the pockets thing. Did you see that one kid smack the other one? So great!

  134. Rachel, what areas did you serve in? Welcome back btw.

  135. On Line Dave says:

    I would expect that a prayer that focused only on expressing appreciation for past earnestly felt forgivenesses might be sufficent. It would certainly lack piousness in needing to acknowledge and recall how I had strayed, or been harsh and then led by some tender mercy to acknowledge my part and need for the atonement to heal me and restore me to wholeness.

  136. #132: It’s a new one to me, too.

    I meant that the children may have rehearsed more intensively in local groups, but didn’t all get together until the end.

  137. Latter-day Guy says:

    133, I’m calm. My last line was not intended to be sarcastic. I’m just curious about the practicalities of such a prayer.

    136, That’s certainly something to think about. Thanks.

  138. Thanks, Steve. I served in Rennes (3 months), Versailles (7 months), the eastern side of Paris in the Paris-Lilas ward (5 months), and in Le Mans (3 months)

  139. Latter-day Guy says:

    122, Yeah. I just covet the music of the Anglicans. :)

  140. Nice! I was 7 mos. in Versailles as well (well, St-Quentin-en-Yvelines, anyhow). At least you got out to Brittany, even if it was the outskirts.

  141. Steve, that St. Quentin branch was great. It got absorbed into the Versailles ward when I was there, though. Made me a little sad. Versailles, Versailles, what a great and hard place at the same time. When were you in France?

  142. Bonsoir tout le monde.

  143. My dad was in Brittany–St. Nazaire or Lorient–for five months.

    Actually, on the outskirts. The Germans were still in the cities.

  144. I’m skipping Priesthood session and going to dinner with my wife and kids. But if I see any of you guys crowding up Olive Garden I’ll be very disappointed in you.

  145. Mark, wow. You’re dad must have been there during the real re-building years for the church. The church basically started from zero after WWII

  146. Researcher says:

    While you are all rehashing the history of the church in France (during and after the war), we’re all still processing the announcement of a temple locally in the Philadelphia area. My daughter gave a talk in church just last week telling about the youth temple trip the day before. They left before 7:00 in the morning and returned at about 7:00 in the evening. We realize that this is nothing compared to the story we heard last week of the Saints who traveled five days to the temple, but having a temple in this area will sure make things easier for a lot of people. We’re very excited and had a lovely flurry of emails from friends and family all over the country.

    Great conference so far!

  147. Sorry, Rachel–I was, as usual, not being serious. My dad was in Brittany as a member of the Black Panther Division (66th Infantry Division, U.S. Army), from December 1944 to May 1945. The Germans in Lorient and St. Nazaire back then were members of the Wehrmacht, and maybe some men from the Kriegsmarine–they had submarine bases in those cities.

    I don’t think he had much opportunity to speak to the Bretons about anything, including the gospel. And, if he had, they wouldn’t have understood English, the only language he spoke.

  148. StillConfused says:

    Corbridge was my stake president. I remember going in for my first temple recommend interview and him giving me a hard time about going to law school. He is a lawyer and felt there were too many as it was.

  149. Mark: well, I gotta learn sometime not to jump to conclusions. Still cool that your dad was in France, even if not a missionary. He saw a beautiful part of the world

    StillConfused: Hmm. I’m thinking about law school myself. any advice?

  150. Rachel,

    Well, you should ask yourself these important questions:

    -Do I have any parents who have had productive and enjoyable legal careers and who used the time and connections from those careers to become Mormon studies junkies?
    -Do I have any extremely literate and literary older sisters who would be shocked if I ended up as a lawyer rather than as another literature grad student?
    -Wouldn’t it be kind of fun to shock them? :)
    -Besides, just think how much the Mormon blogs would love you. A lawyer _and_ a Frandsenette — why, no LDS blog could resist that combination. You could write your own ticket.

    I realize there are other factors to consider (career, cost, yada yada), but I think that this list covers the really important ones.

  151. Kaimi,
    you flatter me undeservedly. Would that skill and success were inherited as easily as my family reputation . . . But still, you bring up a good point, being shocking would be pretty fun.

  152. I was away from the ‘net over the weekend, so very late with this comment: did anyone else find Corbridge’s talk to be a bit on the creepy/cultish side? his rigid stance, weird stare, and over the top rhetoric had Cult written all over it. I really try not to complain unduly, but in this case I was disturbed. It was like he was trying to hypnotize the audience with a repetitive series of simple phrases. I couldn’t tell if he was trying to outdo the memory of McConkie or give Dallin Oaks a run for his money. I mean, is the guy a former Evangelical or something? I had to get up and walk around after that talk just to shake it off.

  153. StillConfused says:

    #154 — that is just Larry’s personality!

    #151 — law school was a blast. I totally enjoyed it. It is the easiest doctorate to get. My advice is: go to law school where you plan on living; and don’t go directly to law school from undergraduate school. Life experience is a plus. The first year of law school is a game. The socratic method of teaching is irritating if you want to know the correct answer. But just play along with the game and it all turns out well. I have mentored women going through law school for ten years now so if you take the plunge, let me know.

  154. Old Scarecrow says:

    Re: #65, 71:
    This is way late, but I wish I could point Jobicus to the book

    True To The Faith

    published by the First Presidency. I’ve been active for more than fifty years, but I still get a tremendous amount out of that book. It often is inspired, although I don’t know for sure whose words they actually are. Available wherever . . .

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